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More Than Half a Million Health Care Workers Quit Their Jobs in August
- anonporridge 5y ago> About 534,000 health care workers quit their jobs in August, up from about 404,000 during the same month in 2020. This article would be much better with a chart of per capita monthly attrition of health care workers going back years before the pandemic, otherwise it's hard to know how significant it actually is.
- vikingerik 5y agoAnd what does quitting even mean here? The vast majority are probably simply changing employers, not leaving the industry. And of course mobility for all industries is higher in 2021 than 2020. This article is useless clickbait sensationalist trash with zero actual data.
- ransom1538 5y ago"And what does quitting even mean here?" It means nothing. We have a specialized nurse in our family. He can get a job at anytime anywhere in the US. One phone call, hired. He will quit a job because the break room doesn't have enough light OR he just wants a month off. He often will go back to a hospital he quit four times: re-hired that day.
- listless 5y agoWhile we’re doing anecdotes, my wife quit her full time job to take a part time gig making care plans for a retirement center (office work). This is because she couldn’t deal with the patient load and stress from family members. This was pre-COVID. The job is bad enough without a pandemic.
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- canthonytucci 5y ago1. “Retarded” as a pejorative is generally considered impolite to the actually retarded. [1] 2. I think you probably mean “too”. 3. Take a deep breath. It will be ok. [1] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/when-you-use-the-word-retarded-as-an-insult-this_b_576bdda5e4b018c1a15b62d1 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/when-you-use-the-word-retarde...
- bperson 5y ago> “too” Got him
- spfzero 5y agoHow does "Record-high numbers of Americans working in other public-facing roles also quit their jobs as coronavirus cases surged" tell you anything about whether they returned to the industry or not? It doesn't even tell you they quit because of Coronavirus cases surging, just that those two things were happening at the same time. Further, it doesn't even say whether people in public-facing jobs were quitting more frequently than people in non-public-facing jobs.
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- UncleOxidant 5y agoAnd how many are completely leaving the healthcare field vs changing jobs in the same field?
- mywittyname 5y agoYou'll want to partition this data again into movements into direct patient vs non-patient care. There are lots of positions which are in the the field of healthcare, require an RN, but involve no direct patient care.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago“The poll showed the exodus is primarily driven by the pandemic, insufficient pay or opportunities, and burnout, according to Morning Consult.” https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/workforce/18-of-healthcare-workers-have-quit-jobs-during-pandemic-morning-consult.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/workforce/18-of-health...
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- keneda7 5y agoA subreddit that celebrates people dying is disgusting. The fact that you linked to it even more so.
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- keneda7 5y agoI have browsed the subreddit. It is filled will people celebrating other dying. It also was posting people private information causing the families of the deceased to get harassed. This recently lead the subreddits moderators to change the rules to keep this from happening so don't bother denying it. It is no different than the anti-vaxers posting picture of people's social media feeds bragging about being vaccinated and then ending up in the hospital. Its disgusting and completely uncalled for. Is it okay to celebrate when an obese person dies from heart disease? No it is not. Its a time to let their families and friends grieve their loss.
- b0sk 5y ago> It is no different than the anti-vaxers posting picture of people's social media feeds bragging about being vaccinated and then ending up in the hospital. What a sad analogy. One group that can take one or two shots and can drastically decrease the odds of hospitalization vs one group that tried to do the right thing but still got COVID mostly due to huge community transmission contributed by the unvaxxed group. > Is it okay to celebrate when an obese person dies from heart disease? If only obese people could take 2 shots that drastically reduces the odds of heart disease.
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- drc37 5y agoHow many of those were let go because they didn't want to be forced into getting vaccinated?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y agoI'm not sure why you're down voted for asking this. 10 nurses at my partner's job quit rather than get vaccinated. They also replaced all 10 very quickly with vaccinated nurses and gave everyone raises.
- mywittyname 5y agoBecause the question is rhetorical and meant to imply that vaccination mandates are the cause of the shortage.
- mfcl 5y agoI disagree, obviously if you ask a question you imply the answer might be true. If you want to know whether the mandate is the cause, you need to be able to ask the question.
- klyrs 5y ago> Tuesday's report showed that hiring slowed in August, while the number of jobs available fell to 10.4 million, from a record high of 11.1 million in July. The largest decreases in job openings were in health care and social assistance (-224,000); accommodation and food services (-178,000); and state and local government education (-124,000). > The date on quits is likely too early to show the impact of vaccine mandates. It wasn't until mid-September that President Joe Biden on Thursday announced sweeping new federal vaccine requirements for as many as 100 million Americans — private-sector employees as well as health care workers and federal contractors.
- ericbarrett 5y agoAnecdotally, places like /r/nursing are full of stories of traveling positions (out-of-state temp work) offering as much as $10k/week for qualified personnel. If you're already unhappy with your job and management, and pulling say $70k annually for 80-hour weeks and 36-hour shifts, that has to be tempting. Even half that rate would be worth it for a lot of people. Texas, for example, is trying to stop people from doing this in-state[0]. [0] https://nurse.org/articles/texas-bans-nurses-from-in-state-crisis-contracts/ https://nurse.org/articles/texas-bans-nurses-from-in-state-c...
- mschuster91 5y ago> Texas, for example, is trying to stop people from doing this in-state[0]. So much for the usual "let the free market handle it" of Republicans. When shit hits the fan and threatens the bottom line of the wealthy too much, all of a sudden their principles vanish into thin air.
- useragent86 5y agoHm, I wonder who mschuster91 is. Let's click on his username... > You call it "alt-left", I proudly call it "Antifa". It's interesting to see a "proudly Antifa" account on HN with 10k karma complaining about Republicans in Texas. A comment like that would typically be chastised by dang for being predictable, political flamebait, but accounts with 10k karma seem to get away with a lot here.
- chris_wot 5y agoI thought Texas was the state of "freedom"? And now they are actively preventing the free market?
- david38 5y agoLol. Texas is the state of freedom for only a select group. Remember the argument how businesses were “private property” and could refuse service? Fair enough, I’ll go along with that. Except now, private businesses are not allowed to set rules on immunization. Texas is the opposite of free market, just look at its recent energy crisis.
- avhception 5y agoPublications seem to be oblivious to the fact that they are read by an international audience. I was almost ready to google "Newsweek" to find out from which english-speaking country this is coming when I found a hint that cued me in that the article ist concerned with the situation in America, not Canada or Australia or GB or Ireland or something.
- Jtsummers 5y agoConveniently, at the very top of the article, just above the headline (on desktop, not sure about mobile), it gives a category for the article: "U.S.".
- avhception 5y agoOh well, I actually missed that so I guess that one is on me. Having said that, you have to admit that's not always the case and it's easy to miss after being nagged with cookie popups and newsletters and whatnot.