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> a lot of C, C++, assembly skills - this is what it meant to mess around with computers! I can't believe this is getting upvoted on HN. What kind of gatekeepi

> a lot of C, C++, assembly skills - this is what it meant to mess around with computers! I can't believe this is getting upvoted on HN. What kind of gatekeeping elitist bullshit is this?

milbertson 5y ago
Though a bit elitist, his comment isn't discouraging anybody, and does hold some truth in that getting closer to the hardware allows you to do things you can't do otherwise. I feel like it's unfair to disparage him as harshly as that.
ncmncm 5y ago
I don't see anything elitist. Anyone can learn assembly language, C, and even C++ and Rust with a bit more dedication. Anyway, much of the work getting these phones ready as daily drivers is in getting apps that run on them mature. There are lots of languages adequate for apps.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Or learn Swift or Kotlin, and target iOS or Android instead.
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Or even, you know, not.
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DeathArrow 5y ago
What's elitist in learning a craft properly? Working with a higher level language doesn't mean that learning C, C++, algorithms, data structures and a bit of math isn't terrible useful.