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One advantage in flying - you are pretty much told EXACTLY how to do many things. This is what makes me think flying will be automatable. There are a lot of ch

One advantage in flying - you are pretty much told EXACTLY how to do many things. This is what makes me think flying will be automatable. There are a lot of checklists already written for almost everything. Ie, electrical power up, preflights, (CDU preflight?) before taxi before takeoff etc. Runaway trim was a memory item (!). ie, so important you have to have it memorized. What's interesting is that because of a jammed actuator motor in an earlier US situation (way back) they have this language about a "maximum two person effort will not break the cables" https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_jY4nvLmuE4/XQ_n-FaocOI/AAAAAAAAGSw/zpVbp0h6GFYPgv3ILgaWKNjoy7pQK4o7gCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2019-06-23%2Bat%2B1.56.15%2BPM.png https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_jY4nvLmuE4/XQ_n-FaocOI/AAAAAAAAG... This is because you have to basically break out of a clutch and friction condition if a motor seized which aside from the MCAS crashes could require pretty large efforts. There is evidence of somewhat routine stab trim issues, at least 1x per year mistrim stuff, and more often inop etc. Before these crashes I don't think it was considered even a very serious concern because pilots would handle it in ordinary course of things.

WalterBright 5y ago
> One advantage in flying - you are pretty much told EXACTLY how to do many things. Experience shows that will get you safely out of the vast majority of emergency conditions. The ones that are left require understanding and a brain, which is why we still have human pilots. Runaway stab trim is so serious a condition that the cutoff switches are within easy reach right there on the console. It doesn't really matter how many safeguards there are against runaway trim, the pilot needs to be able to just turn the thing off. It's also deliberate that the electric trim switches override everything but the cutoff switches. Pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that Boeing thought that it was so easy to just turn off a misbehaving trim system, that the pilots would just do that. It's sort of like one day I was working away on my desktop, and smoke started boiling out of the case. My first reaction was to pull the plug out. Fortunately, that stopped the fire. If it hadn't, my second reaction would have been to throw the box outside. My lawnmower, power tools, etc., are all designed so that chopping the power to them is as easy as possible. Even race cars have a large switch mounted on the exterior to shut off all power.

WalterBright 5y ago

> One advantage in flying - you are pretty much told EXACTLY how to do many things. Experience shows that will get you safely out of the vast majority of emergency conditions. The ones that are left require understanding and a brain, which is why we still have human pilots. Runaway stab trim is so serious a condition that the cutoff switches are within easy reach right there on the console. It doesn't really matter how many safeguards there are against runaway trim, the pilot needs to be able to just turn the thing off. It's also deliberate that the electric trim switches override everything but the cutoff switches. Pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that Boeing thought that it was so easy to just turn off a misbehaving trim system, that the pilots would just do that. It's sort of like one day I was working away on my desktop, and smoke started boiling out of the case. My first reaction was to pull the plug out. Fortunately, that stopped the fire. If it hadn't, my second reaction would have been to throw the box outside. My lawnmower, power tools, etc., are all designed so that chopping the power to them is as easy as possible. Even race cars have a large switch mounted on the exterior to shut off all power.