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Nokia 6310

46 points by busymom0 5y ago

config_yml 5y ago
I really don‘t want a smartphone, but what I need in a simple device like this is a camera for qr code scanning and support for 2factor apps.
subhrm 5y ago
0.3 MP camera in 2021! Why ? At least put a decent camera. 8 MP one would've been great.
- busymom0 5y ago
  I would have preferred if it didn't have a camera at all.
garaetjjte 5y ago
Looks like it uses that crappy "S30+" operating system. It would be so much better with old S40, but I guess that isn't compatible with cheapest bottom of the barrel SoC they are using now...
tomas789 5y ago
Looks like Nokia just called the guys who were designing 3310 and told them to make a new phone :)
GekkePrutser 5y ago
The resemblance isn't as big as the previous remakes IMO. Especially because they didn't bother to make a metallic grey/silver or grey/gold colour option like the original! Edit: Ok the black one comes kinda close to the original 'dark' model but even the black/grey was metallic on the orginal. It's kinda funny that it has only dualband GSM, making it pretty useless in most countries now that 2G is being decommissioned. For comparison, the original 6310 was tri-band! So the original was actually better, after exactly 20 years no less. Even some of the other specs are literally the same! 16MB RAM, 8MB storage. Yes, MB. In 2021. Really. And 0.3mpx.. That's 640x480. It's the same as my Kodak digital camera from 1999. Lol. They're really going for retro this time. I thought the idea was to have the same design with more modern specs. Not to have 20 year old specs except with a colour screen and a "camera". Even with those 0.3mpx you can take about 10 photos before the 8MB storage is full. Wow. Like, how much does 8 GB flash cost these days? Cents?? I really don't understand what market they are aiming this thing at. The "I just make calls and text" crowd won't have a use for a camera, even a crap one. They'd often not want a camera at all (In some cases those are not permitted at work!). The rich retro crowd can't use a 2G phone in most countries. Customers in poor countries won't care if it's retro because if this is all they can afford now, they certainly didn't own a 6310 20 years ago, that was pretty much a 'flagship' phone in those days. I really wonder whether it was even worth the trouble of designing it.
- scyzoryk_xyz 5y ago
  It’s pretty clear the aim here is people who read papers with glasses and listen to FM Radio. Designing it most likely was a minuscule cost for a company like Nokia. More of a marketing move really.
vadfa 5y ago
Why do they keep releasing new phones reusing the model numbers of old phones? Nostalgia angle, I get it, but it's messy.
- nottorp 5y ago
  This is the 3rd reuse of 6310 i think? I had one and it had a b&w screen...
  - unixhero 5y ago
    6310 6310i and new 2021 6310
    - nottorp 5y ago
      Oh i figured it out. I had the almost identical 6210 (2000). Which was reused in 2008: https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210-12.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210-12.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210_navigator-2255.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210_navigator-2255.php Ok, so far they're only using a number twice.
zbuf 5y ago
I feel they keep missing the point here. New phones with old specs that don't even have the positives of the phone they're paying homage to. Bring me an 8310 with 4G, WiFi hotspot and a little e-ink display. That's it. Then we're talking. An opportunity to build a phone that isn't an intrusion on my life, and I can supplement with a tablet/smartphone when I need it.
- busymom0 5y ago
  Agreed. I would have bought it if it didn’t have a camera and allowed me to put mp3 files and play them like a music player. I basically need a device which doesn’t do anything other than calling and playing mp3 music. Also mr sure why they used old 2G when it’s being gotten rid of in many places.
  - zbuf 5y ago
    I suppose it's that everyone has their own "just one more thing" (in your case MP3 playback). The best way to not go down that rabbit hole is for the device to be a connectivity hub -- a functional device, not an entertaining one. 2G also gives regional differences, which is what already renders my 8310 unusable abroad.
- WalterGR 5y ago
  It seems like you’re not in the target market for this phone then?
- glial 5y ago
  https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/ https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/ WiFi hotspot - check a little e-ink display - check 4G - check-ish...it has LTE
  - zbuf 5y ago
    Interesting! I'll check this out some more. Though I think it's not WiFi but tethered to the phone.
cf100clunk 5y ago
Every new product like this goes through consumer focus group testing, after which the likelihood of each feature helping to achieve a net profit for the entire device is weighed for inclusion. Achieving a good balance is tough, but in the end it is all about whether an expectation of profit is strong enough to put it out there. In this case, Nokia-HMD would have selected options that may not make sense to some HN-type readers. Would I buy one if I was looking for only a feature phone? I'd have to see a tree-list of all menu items to go along with a seriously informative set of specifications. Some competitors to this new 6310 run KaiOS, often implemented with teeny hardware controls and "too much" rather than "just enough" stuff.
type0 5y ago
I wish they would release something like this instead: https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/specs/ https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/specs/
fito 5y ago
I’m ready for feature phones with interesting designs and feature sets to make a comeback!

46 points by busymom0 5y ago

I really don‘t want a smartphone, but what I need in a simple device like this is a camera for qr code scanning and support for 2factor apps.

subhrm 5y ago

0.3 MP camera in 2021! Why ? At least put a decent camera. 8 MP one would've been great.

busymom0 5y ago
I would have preferred if it didn't have a camera at all.

garaetjjte 5y ago

Looks like it uses that crappy "S30+" operating system. It would be so much better with old S40, but I guess that isn't compatible with cheapest bottom of the barrel SoC they are using now...

tomas789 5y ago

Looks like Nokia just called the guys who were designing 3310 and told them to make a new phone :)

GekkePrutser 5y ago

The resemblance isn't as big as the previous remakes IMO. Especially because they didn't bother to make a metallic grey/silver or grey/gold colour option like the original! Edit: Ok the black one comes kinda close to the original 'dark' model but even the black/grey was metallic on the orginal. It's kinda funny that it has only dualband GSM, making it pretty useless in most countries now that 2G is being decommissioned. For comparison, the original 6310 was tri-band! So the original was actually better, after exactly 20 years no less. Even some of the other specs are literally the same! 16MB RAM, 8MB storage. Yes, MB. In 2021. Really. And 0.3mpx.. That's 640x480. It's the same as my Kodak digital camera from 1999. Lol. They're really going for retro this time. I thought the idea was to have the same design with more modern specs. Not to have 20 year old specs except with a colour screen and a "camera". Even with those 0.3mpx you can take about 10 photos before the 8MB storage is full. Wow. Like, how much does 8 GB flash cost these days? Cents?? I really don't understand what market they are aiming this thing at. The "I just make calls and text" crowd won't have a use for a camera, even a crap one. They'd often not want a camera at all (In some cases those are not permitted at work!). The rich retro crowd can't use a 2G phone in most countries. Customers in poor countries won't care if it's retro because if this is all they can afford now, they certainly didn't own a 6310 20 years ago, that was pretty much a 'flagship' phone in those days. I really wonder whether it was even worth the trouble of designing it.

scyzoryk_xyz 5y ago
It’s pretty clear the aim here is people who read papers with glasses and listen to FM Radio. Designing it most likely was a minuscule cost for a company like Nokia. More of a marketing move really.

vadfa 5y ago

Why do they keep releasing new phones reusing the model numbers of old phones? Nostalgia angle, I get it, but it's messy.

nottorp 5y ago
This is the 3rd reuse of 6310 i think? I had one and it had a b&w screen...
- unixhero 5y ago
  6310 6310i and new 2021 6310
  - nottorp 5y ago
    Oh i figured it out. I had the almost identical 6210 (2000). Which was reused in 2008: https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210-12.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210-12.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210_navigator-2255.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210_navigator-2255.php Ok, so far they're only using a number twice.

zbuf 5y ago

I feel they keep missing the point here. New phones with old specs that don't even have the positives of the phone they're paying homage to. Bring me an 8310 with 4G, WiFi hotspot and a little e-ink display. That's it. Then we're talking. An opportunity to build a phone that isn't an intrusion on my life, and I can supplement with a tablet/smartphone when I need it.

busymom0 5y ago
Agreed. I would have bought it if it didn’t have a camera and allowed me to put mp3 files and play them like a music player. I basically need a device which doesn’t do anything other than calling and playing mp3 music. Also mr sure why they used old 2G when it’s being gotten rid of in many places.
- zbuf 5y ago
  I suppose it's that everyone has their own "just one more thing" (in your case MP3 playback). The best way to not go down that rabbit hole is for the device to be a connectivity hub -- a functional device, not an entertaining one. 2G also gives regional differences, which is what already renders my 8310 unusable abroad.
WalterGR 5y ago
It seems like you’re not in the target market for this phone then?
glial 5y ago
https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/ https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/ WiFi hotspot - check a little e-ink display - check 4G - check-ish...it has LTE
- zbuf 5y ago
  Interesting! I'll check this out some more. Though I think it's not WiFi but tethered to the phone.

cf100clunk 5y ago

Every new product like this goes through consumer focus group testing, after which the likelihood of each feature helping to achieve a net profit for the entire device is weighed for inclusion. Achieving a good balance is tough, but in the end it is all about whether an expectation of profit is strong enough to put it out there. In this case, Nokia-HMD would have selected options that may not make sense to some HN-type readers. Would I buy one if I was looking for only a feature phone? I'd have to see a tree-list of all menu items to go along with a seriously informative set of specifications. Some competitors to this new 6310 run KaiOS, often implemented with teeny hardware controls and "too much" rather than "just enough" stuff.

type0 5y ago

I wish they would release something like this instead: https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/specs/ https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/specs/

fito 5y ago

I’m ready for feature phones with interesting designs and feature sets to make a comeback!