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Perhaps because it is at a similar price point as a Fairphone 3, which you can daily drive.
by CameronNemo 5y ago
Perhaps because it is at a similar price point as a Fairphone 3, which you can daily drive.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoBut the Fairphone 3 is running a hostile OS that has already done most of the work, and the PinePhone is still very much an early development platform.
- CameronNemo 5y agoWhat is hostile about the OS? Early development or not, the rk3399 is a 5 year old SoC.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoAn advertising company has a root-level backdoor to the device?
- CameronNemo 5y agoYou should be able to run degoogled android on the device.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoIn theory, sure. However, having done that dance before, the limitations between a degoogled Android (basically open source apps only, since F-Droid doesn't allow proprietary apps, and nearly all proprietary apps depend on Play Services APIs anyways), you end up with something less useful than a PinePhone. And at the end of the day, Android was written by Google for Google to serve Google. Trying to use a phone as your daily driver running developed by your enemy is hardly a way to get through life. Just get a phone that doesn't hate you. Like a PinePhone. Or an iPhone, which has all sort of issues but at least gives you a reasonably private and secure device at the expense of gobs of money.
- CameronNemo 5y agoMicroG may still ping google services sometimes, but it is not a root level backdoor into my phone. Most proprietary apps I've tried work. Bank app, dating apps, slack, visual voicemail, venmo.
- summm 5y agoAnd to add insult to injury, you as the user do not get to have a root account. Yes, there are ways to get one, but even the "alternative distributions" go out of their way to make it extra tedious for you. I would for example expect a built-in menu in Lineageos settings called "enable root" that does what it says without further steps. Instead I need do install some 3rd party stuff from somewhere, get the bootloader image from somewhere, patch it, use a PC to install that image... for each update!
- Fnoord 5y agoYou can install another OS if you want. LineageOS, for example (with or without OpenGApps). Or /e/. You can even buy a FP3(+) with /e/. They sell it. Or other OSes. Or you wait for FP4 which is out 25 October. Fairphone 3(+)/4 don't have killswitches though.
- seba_dos1 5y agoThey're all just various distributions of the same OS. Personally I'm just not interested in anything Android.
- Fnoord 5y agoYou can also run non-AOSP based OSes on Fairphone. Its just that people like and require backwards compatibility.
- SahAssar 5y agoIf you're talking about /e/, that's essentially a android fork. It takes away a lot of the tracking, sure, but it's still android.
- Fnoord 5y agoI'm not talking specifically about /e/ (though I would recommend looking into it, if you want privacy and Android backwards compatibility). I am talking about the plethora of OSes available otherwise, such as postmarketOS, Mobian, Ubuntu Touch, SailfishOS, etc. It al runs a Linux kernel though, so anyone can pull the 'but its still Linux' card and discussion is over.
- SahAssar 5y agoDo those run or are supported on fairphone? The only thing I found when googling "fairphone4 alternative OS" was mentions of /e/.