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Yeah, I mean, this is among Canadians willing to fill out a survey online. Frankly it feels like another push in the media world to shift blame to FB. As far a

Yeah, I mean, this is among Canadians willing to fill out a survey online. Frankly it feels like another push in the media world to shift blame to FB. As far as specifically Canadian factors, maybe don’t survey us in October when the days are getting noticeably shorter? I feel like we are all a little melancholy right now preparing for our lightless morning commutes.

dr-detroit 5y ago
If you love being exploited by the ultra rich why dont you just move to Russia and let the rest of us at least try to avoid the social media brainscramble.
keewee7 5y ago
What I don't understand is the selective outrage against Facebook/Instagram. Why not Twitter, YouTube, reddit and TikTok?
- golemiprague 5y ago
  Because facebook give a place for not so lefty people to express their mind. Twitter and reddit are lefty so they are protected, Tiktok is Chinese so no political points gains attacking it since they don't care about some American opinion. Youtube people actually have to invest time and effort to make an engaging content so people at least have some basic appreciation for it.
- na85 5y ago
  Twitter, Youtube, Reddit, and TikTok don't have megalomaniac CEOs who got rich selling out their users to advertisers while spending that money on PR messages like "privacy is dead" and then turning around to buy all the mansions around theirs so that they can protect their privacy. Also there's that little itty bitty issue where Facebook was purposely manipulating people's timeline feeds to see if they could produce depression-like symptoms, without informed consent.
  - rndmind 5y ago
    Don't forget the hostile attempts at monopolizing information access in India and 3rd world countries with INTERNET.org that was so nefarious I was very scared, fortunately india thwarted facebook, inc's malicious plan and rejected it... but internet.org still went on to poison other 3rd world countries like the philippines and indonesia, before their nescient tech industry even had a chance to stop it. In addition, the nefarious bribery of brazilian telcoms to allow whatsapp to have unlimited and free network bandwidth, so as to out-muscle any competitors. Indeed, fb did push out PR messages like privacy is dead, although I'd love to cite some source on that... all I want to say is, Privacy isn't dead facebook, you're dead!
- monkeynotes 5y ago
  I don't think YT or Reddit are any where near as insidious as FB, Twitter, and TikTok. YouTube's feed basically shows me what I am subscribed to which is interesting shit I am legit interested in. I don't see any of my friends talking about their amazing lives, or any political BS, at all. The comments section is a 3rd class citizen in much of their UI and less toxic than friends all piling in and arguing about crap. Reddit is global conversations, the topics and comments can be toxic but it's not an echochamber by design. I will say though, Reddit does make me sad sometimes so I have to work at it to use it in a healthy way. Twitter, Tiktok, and unfortunately more and more Instagram are also sludge pools IMO.
  - keewee7 5y ago
    >Reddit is global conversations, the topics and comments can be toxic but it's not an echochamber by design. Reddit is a de facto echo chamber. The two biggest news subreddits are heavily censored.
- Tiktaalik 5y ago
  Or traditional media? Are we pretending that fashion magazines have never pushed toxic body image messages onto young people? lol
- LanceH 5y ago
  The real crime is perpetrated by those choosing Twitter to tell a long story broken into individual tweets.
- deleted 5y ago
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munk-a 5y ago
I am actively disappointed that this organization chose to use such a weak survey to prove their point. It feels pretty darn accurate as a Canadian on the ground so paying out for a phone survey could have dodged all this doubt.

dr-detroit 5y ago

If you love being exploited by the ultra rich why dont you just move to Russia and let the rest of us at least try to avoid the social media brainscramble.

keewee7 5y ago

What I don't understand is the selective outrage against Facebook/Instagram. Why not Twitter, YouTube, reddit and TikTok?

golemiprague 5y ago
Because facebook give a place for not so lefty people to express their mind. Twitter and reddit are lefty so they are protected, Tiktok is Chinese so no political points gains attacking it since they don't care about some American opinion. Youtube people actually have to invest time and effort to make an engaging content so people at least have some basic appreciation for it.
na85 5y ago
Twitter, Youtube, Reddit, and TikTok don't have megalomaniac CEOs who got rich selling out their users to advertisers while spending that money on PR messages like "privacy is dead" and then turning around to buy all the mansions around theirs so that they can protect their privacy. Also there's that little itty bitty issue where Facebook was purposely manipulating people's timeline feeds to see if they could produce depression-like symptoms, without informed consent.
- rndmind 5y ago
  Don't forget the hostile attempts at monopolizing information access in India and 3rd world countries with INTERNET.org that was so nefarious I was very scared, fortunately india thwarted facebook, inc's malicious plan and rejected it... but internet.org still went on to poison other 3rd world countries like the philippines and indonesia, before their nescient tech industry even had a chance to stop it. In addition, the nefarious bribery of brazilian telcoms to allow whatsapp to have unlimited and free network bandwidth, so as to out-muscle any competitors. Indeed, fb did push out PR messages like privacy is dead, although I'd love to cite some source on that... all I want to say is, Privacy isn't dead facebook, you're dead!
monkeynotes 5y ago
I don't think YT or Reddit are any where near as insidious as FB, Twitter, and TikTok. YouTube's feed basically shows me what I am subscribed to which is interesting shit I am legit interested in. I don't see any of my friends talking about their amazing lives, or any political BS, at all. The comments section is a 3rd class citizen in much of their UI and less toxic than friends all piling in and arguing about crap. Reddit is global conversations, the topics and comments can be toxic but it's not an echochamber by design. I will say though, Reddit does make me sad sometimes so I have to work at it to use it in a healthy way. Twitter, Tiktok, and unfortunately more and more Instagram are also sludge pools IMO.
- keewee7 5y ago
  >Reddit is global conversations, the topics and comments can be toxic but it's not an echochamber by design. Reddit is a de facto echo chamber. The two biggest news subreddits are heavily censored.
Tiktaalik 5y ago
Or traditional media? Are we pretending that fashion magazines have never pushed toxic body image messages onto young people? lol
LanceH 5y ago
The real crime is perpetrated by those choosing Twitter to tell a long story broken into individual tweets.
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munk-a 5y ago

I am actively disappointed that this organization chose to use such a weak survey to prove their point. It feels pretty darn accurate as a Canadian on the ground so paying out for a phone survey could have dodged all this doubt.