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I don't think I agree with you about the scientific evidence of those two positions. Masking children outside in 90-degree weather (especially with cloth masks
by geofft 5y ago
I don't think I agree with you about the scientific evidence of those two positions.
Masking children outside in 90-degree weather (especially with cloth masks instead of medical ones) may be ineffective, but it is harmless, modulo speculation about children's need to recognize faces etc. It doesn't impact breathing capacity or anything, and it certainly doesn't put you at more risk of getting the virus.
Claims that the vaccines are poison are not only actively wrong but actively dangerous. Adopting this position, i.e., refusing to get the vaccine, puts you at risk.
I understand a whole lot of people are offended by people wearing masks outside. That's fine! It's a free country, you can be offended by whatever you want. But the claim that it is contraindicated by science just as much as the anti-vax position is ludicrous.
- JohnWhigham 5y agoLet's take a step back and start with this: I've noticed many people refusing to get the vaccine because pharmaceutical companies legally cannot be held liable for any side effects that the vaccines cause. Can you not see how many people may not like this? Especially with some of these companies being directly responsible for the opioid crisis going on right now and not receiving due justice? Telling people "doesn't matter, get the jab, trust in Science" isn't a solution to this.
- angelzen 5y agoIn uncharted territory, one can believe that vaccines are likely to make a positive contribution and also opt-out from using the vaccine until more data is collected. It's called "precautionary principle". Generally speaking the gap between conservative and liberal vaccine uptake can be more charitably explained by the observation that conservative people score less on the big five Openness scale. No need to turn it into a partisan fight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2012/05/21/the-big-sort https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2012/05/21/th...
- gfodor 5y agoYou can't actually believe that running around outside in 90 degree weather as a young child with or without a face mask has no material difference in potential harm. Have you actually ever worn a mask in the heat doing physical activity?
- geofft 5y agoYes. I've been doing so all week (I just bought a new bicycle, and I wear a mask outside because it offends people and I find it funny), and I have exercised-induced asthma and sweat/overheat very easily. It's been fine. Masks don't impact your body's ability or inability to dissipate heat. The heat is uncomfortable; the mask doesn't matter. Have you tried it? In any case, my argument is not that it has no potential harm - just that it's ludicrous to say it's as potentially harmful as not getting the vaccine.
- gfodor 5y agoUh. You: > my argument is not that it has no potential harm Also you: > may be ineffective, but it is harmless Masks restrict breathing. Restricting breathing is harmful. Particularly when your body is being taxed. This isn’t rocket science. Watching your contortions is entertaining though!
- geofft 5y agoMasks do not restrict breathing. They filter the air you breathe, making breathing easier, if anything. I am asthmatic, and I am sensitive to reduced ability to breathe. Seriously, have you ever worn a mask? (Or maybe by "mask" you mean some shoddily-built cloth mask instead of an actual N95? I agree, "morons in California" should not give their children shoddily-built cloth masks to play outdoors, they should give them N95s.)
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