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A basic but very important question: can it phone and send/receive text message reliably? Smartphones are so bloated with functionalities, it seems nobody ever

by 131012 5y ago

A basic but very important question: can it phone and send/receive text message reliably? Smartphones are so bloated with functionalities, it seems nobody ever talks about that. I don't see the answer on the website.

blueblob 5y ago
I saw an article that touched on this for the pinephone (not the pro) and they said that it made and received calls fine but did not originally have dtmf support. If you need to check your voicemail and enter a passcode or use an automated system to pick up your prescription, you could not use it for that. It seems that has been ironed out depending on which OS you put on it.
Klasiaster 5y ago
Not reliably, the modem can crash at any time and until you restart it manually from the terminal you can't send/receive text/calls.
- josteink 5y ago
  I send and receive texts all the time on my PP. What are you talking about?
  - Klasiaster 5y ago
    Normally happens during suspend and when you wake the phone up again, the modem is gone until you do `sudo systemctl restart eg25-manager` (using the FLOSS firmware on the latest release). When it happened once, it will happen more often, until the phone is rebooted, than you get it working for longer time again.
hutzlibu 5y ago
"A basic but very important question: can it phone and send/receive text message reliably" Half a year ago, when I looked into it, the answer was a clear: no. And there were not many things that did work reliable, without frequent freezes and crashes. I doubt that fundamentally changed, so if you are looking for stability and reliability right now, than better look somewhere else. This project is about to get to such a state.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  That's part of why it's so infuriating. I wish they'd not install anything that wasn't working reliably. If only three features currently work, fine. Build from there. But a crashy mess that can't do 100 things while it overheats? I have no use for that. Fred Brooks, 1987: Some years ago Harlan Mills proposed that any software system should be grown by incremental development. That is, the system should first be made to run, even if it does nothing useful except call the proper set of dummy subprograms. Then, bit by bit, it should be fleshed out, with the subprograms in turn being developed--into actions or calls to empty stubs in the level below. I have seen most dramatic results since I began urging this technique on the project builders in my Software Engineering Laboratory class. Nothing in the past decade has so radically changed my own practice, or its effectiveness. ... The morale effects are startling. Enthusiasm jumps when there is a running system, even a simple one. Efforts redouble when the first picture from a new graphics software system appears on the screen, even if it is only a rectangle. One always has, at every stage in the process, a working system.
- blendergeek 5y ago
  > Half a year ago, when I looked into it, the answer was a clear: no. And there were not many things that did work reliable, without frequent freezes and crashes. It's gotten much better since then. Now phone calls are reliable. If you install and configure the upcoming MMS support, messages work reliably. Most of the freezes and crashes have also been ironed out. Source: daily driving postmarketOS with Phosh > I doubt that fundamentally changed, so if you are looking for stability and reliability right now, than better look somewhere else. I agree that full stability is a work in progress. But so much progress has been made in the last year that it feels almost like a different OS. I can't wait to receive my Pinephone Pro!
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    "I can't wait to receive my Pinephone Pro! " Me neither ;)

by 131012 5y ago

blueblob 5y ago

I saw an article that touched on this for the pinephone (not the pro) and they said that it made and received calls fine but did not originally have dtmf support. If you need to check your voicemail and enter a passcode or use an automated system to pick up your prescription, you could not use it for that. It seems that has been ironed out depending on which OS you put on it.

Klasiaster 5y ago

Not reliably, the modem can crash at any time and until you restart it manually from the terminal you can't send/receive text/calls.

josteink 5y ago
I send and receive texts all the time on my PP. What are you talking about?
- Klasiaster 5y ago
  Normally happens during suspend and when you wake the phone up again, the modem is gone until you do `sudo systemctl restart eg25-manager` (using the FLOSS firmware on the latest release). When it happened once, it will happen more often, until the phone is rebooted, than you get it working for longer time again.

hutzlibu 5y ago

"A basic but very important question: can it phone and send/receive text message reliably" Half a year ago, when I looked into it, the answer was a clear: no. And there were not many things that did work reliable, without frequent freezes and crashes. I doubt that fundamentally changed, so if you are looking for stability and reliability right now, than better look somewhere else. This project is about to get to such a state.

mixmastamyk 5y ago
That's part of why it's so infuriating. I wish they'd not install anything that wasn't working reliably. If only three features currently work, fine. Build from there. But a crashy mess that can't do 100 things while it overheats? I have no use for that. Fred Brooks, 1987: Some years ago Harlan Mills proposed that any software system should be grown by incremental development. That is, the system should first be made to run, even if it does nothing useful except call the proper set of dummy subprograms. Then, bit by bit, it should be fleshed out, with the subprograms in turn being developed--into actions or calls to empty stubs in the level below. I have seen most dramatic results since I began urging this technique on the project builders in my Software Engineering Laboratory class. Nothing in the past decade has so radically changed my own practice, or its effectiveness. ... The morale effects are startling. Enthusiasm jumps when there is a running system, even a simple one. Efforts redouble when the first picture from a new graphics software system appears on the screen, even if it is only a rectangle. One always has, at every stage in the process, a working system.
blendergeek 5y ago
> Half a year ago, when I looked into it, the answer was a clear: no. And there were not many things that did work reliable, without frequent freezes and crashes. It's gotten much better since then. Now phone calls are reliable. If you install and configure the upcoming MMS support, messages work reliably. Most of the freezes and crashes have also been ironed out. Source: daily driving postmarketOS with Phosh > I doubt that fundamentally changed, so if you are looking for stability and reliability right now, than better look somewhere else. I agree that full stability is a work in progress. But so much progress has been made in the last year that it feels almost like a different OS. I can't wait to receive my Pinephone Pro!
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  "I can't wait to receive my Pinephone Pro! " Me neither ;)