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> and online shopping for Amazon Not just shopping, but also AWS. It is functionally impossible to use the internet and not patron Amazon because of the ubiqui

by sli 5y ago

> and online shopping for Amazon Not just shopping, but also AWS. It is functionally impossible to use the internet and not patron Amazon because of the ubiquity of AWS. It's not a monopoly because there are technically competitors, but the sheer scope of AWS reach makes consumer choice a practical impossibility. I do nearly all of my internet shopping away from Amazon, only resorting to it when there's no other choice. But nearly every website I visit is powered by AWS at some level, either directly (the site itself) or indirectly (one of the site's service providers). To my mind, this is something new(ish) that is monopoly-adjacent and needs to be taken a bit more seriously. Telling people not to use the internet, or to deeply audit every service they patron, is not a practical solution at all, even for technical users, nevermind the average non-technical user.

ragnarok451 5y ago
I was surprised by this too, but AWS only has 32% of cloud market share https://www.parkmycloud.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-market-share/ https://www.parkmycloud.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-clou....
- spaced-out 5y ago
  Back in 2018 it was nearly half, people don't realize how much market share they've lost in the last few years
  - niuzeta 5y ago
    Wow, what happened? Loss of 10+ percentage of market share is pretty huge. Or did the market simply expand that quickly?
    - mmcdermott 5y ago
      I've definitely run into companies in Amazon-adjacent fields of endeavor employing a "no AWS" rule.
huitzitziltzin 5y ago
> But nearly every website I visit is powered by AWS at some level, either directly (the site itself) or indirectly (one of the site's service providers). To my mind, this is something new(ish) that is monopoly-adjacent and needs to be taken a bit more seriously. Telling people not to use the internet, or to deeply audit every service they patron, is not a practical solution at all, even for technical users, nevermind the average non-technical user. It isn't the job of antitrust law to make sure you don't have to use AWS. Also: AWS is not plausibly a monopoly at all. It faces competition from a number of other cloud providers AND doesn't have a particularly large market share in cloud services anyway. ~ antitrust economist

by sli 5y ago

ragnarok451 5y ago

I was surprised by this too, but AWS only has 32% of cloud market share https://www.parkmycloud.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-market-share/ https://www.parkmycloud.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-clou....

spaced-out 5y ago
Back in 2018 it was nearly half, people don't realize how much market share they've lost in the last few years
- niuzeta 5y ago
  Wow, what happened? Loss of 10+ percentage of market share is pretty huge. Or did the market simply expand that quickly?
  - mmcdermott 5y ago
    I've definitely run into companies in Amazon-adjacent fields of endeavor employing a "no AWS" rule.

huitzitziltzin 5y ago

> But nearly every website I visit is powered by AWS at some level, either directly (the site itself) or indirectly (one of the site's service providers). To my mind, this is something new(ish) that is monopoly-adjacent and needs to be taken a bit more seriously. Telling people not to use the internet, or to deeply audit every service they patron, is not a practical solution at all, even for technical users, nevermind the average non-technical user. It isn't the job of antitrust law to make sure you don't have to use AWS. Also: AWS is not plausibly a monopoly at all. It faces competition from a number of other cloud providers AND doesn't have a particularly large market share in cloud services anyway. ~ antitrust economist