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>This is the Chinese Room problem restated. A computer is capable of behaving as a conscious actor without any concept of knowledge or qualia as we would recogn
by ivanbakel 5y ago
>This is the Chinese Room problem restated. A computer is capable of behaving as a conscious actor without any concept of knowledge or qualia as we would recognize it.
This is begging the question of p-zombie existence. Searle and Chalmers both think it's possible for arbitrarily complex systems to exist without qualia. But given that qualia is unmeasurable, there's no way to know for sure.
That's why I consider the statement of the problem to be faith-based. It is possible that consciousness is an emergent property, and qualia is experienced by every sufficiently-complex system. Declaring that p-zombies are conceivable requires assuming that this is not so.
- nickelpro 5y agoI concur with this completely. Rejecting p-zombies as a concept aligns you either with (3) or (4) of the toy framing above, depending on if you're materialist (consciousness emerges from physical phenomenon/doesn't exist) or non-materialist (consciousness emerges from non-physical phenomenon, and does so universally) about the follow on question.