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So, what's the over/under that you'll soon move your goalpost to say "I'm going to wait until there's 2/5/10 years of data" as March 2022 approaches?

scohesc 5y ago
Considering it's none of your (or society's) business if they choose to get vaccinated or not, you shouldn't be asking those questions. Also, I'm sure by 2/5/10 years the virus will have mutated down to the point it's endemic and similar enough in nature to the common cold and we won't be needing these experimental vaccines.
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  Ah yeah, trying to get out of this pandemic is none of society's business, except for the last 18 months...
  - scohesc 5y ago
    The only thing you can do to protect yourself is get vaccinated. That's the only thing you can control - encouraging governments and employers to force rushed medical treatments upon their citizens, through threats and acts of violence will only further vaccine hesitancy or put a damper on vaccine uptake. Covid will be around forever and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
    - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
      > Covid will be around forever I agree. > and there's nothing anybody can do about it. Nope, with a vaccination it'll be finally comparable to a bad flu (like all those deniers said in the beginning). Portugal has 98% vaccination and has now dropped most of its restrictions. As someone who's vaccinated I do wish the governments would drop all the restrictions and let all the refusers deal with their own mess, but luckily for us governments have a duty of care* for all of society, including the beligerent members, and overfull hospitals disadvantage the vaccinated too. * Although some politicians in power seem to be sacrificing the lives and health of their citizens to sabotage their "enemies", e.g. in Florida and Texas.
      - mdp2021 5y ago
        > Portugal has 98% vaccination For the sake of making clarity, after almost two years of mess: in Portugal over 88% of the population is vaccinated (2% of which only partially), which is 98% of the eligible.
Tycho 5y ago
Really depends on the information at that point of time. We can already see clearly that the vaccines don’t prevent infection or contagion, so the urgency to get vaccinated is gone. I remain in a very low risk group. Data on possible vaccine side-effects and excess deaths is worrying. But the wild card is so-called “long covid.”

scohesc 5y ago

Considering it's none of your (or society's) business if they choose to get vaccinated or not, you shouldn't be asking those questions. Also, I'm sure by 2/5/10 years the virus will have mutated down to the point it's endemic and similar enough in nature to the common cold and we won't be needing these experimental vaccines.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Ah yeah, trying to get out of this pandemic is none of society's business, except for the last 18 months...
- scohesc 5y ago
  The only thing you can do to protect yourself is get vaccinated. That's the only thing you can control - encouraging governments and employers to force rushed medical treatments upon their citizens, through threats and acts of violence will only further vaccine hesitancy or put a damper on vaccine uptake. Covid will be around forever and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
  - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
    > Covid will be around forever I agree. > and there's nothing anybody can do about it. Nope, with a vaccination it'll be finally comparable to a bad flu (like all those deniers said in the beginning). Portugal has 98% vaccination and has now dropped most of its restrictions. As someone who's vaccinated I do wish the governments would drop all the restrictions and let all the refusers deal with their own mess, but luckily for us governments have a duty of care* for all of society, including the beligerent members, and overfull hospitals disadvantage the vaccinated too. * Although some politicians in power seem to be sacrificing the lives and health of their citizens to sabotage their "enemies", e.g. in Florida and Texas.
    - mdp2021 5y ago
      > Portugal has 98% vaccination For the sake of making clarity, after almost two years of mess: in Portugal over 88% of the population is vaccinated (2% of which only partially), which is 98% of the eligible.

Tycho 5y ago

Really depends on the information at that point of time. We can already see clearly that the vaccines don’t prevent infection or contagion, so the urgency to get vaccinated is gone. I remain in a very low risk group. Data on possible vaccine side-effects and excess deaths is worrying. But the wild card is so-called “long covid.”