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Found lots of things rubbed me the wrong way about this post, though tbh I really haven't done Django dev; only Flask. I'll just nitpick on their bagging on Py

Found lots of things rubbed me the wrong way about this post, though tbh I really haven't done Django dev; only Flask. I'll just nitpick on their bagging on Pycharm. Pycharm is great. Frankly, I like it better than VS Code; though I do grant VS Code has its strengths, especially as a lightweight capable code editor.

Chris2048 5y ago
Pycharm gets little love, esp comapred to the free alternative, VS code. I actually like, use, and pay for PyCharm, but it annoys me when JB chase new (ds) customers with DataSpell, or teams management stuff with "Space", When long standing, trivial Pycharm bugs have gone unfixed for years; https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-14743 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-14743 [0]. I have no hope Pycharm will innovate any time soon, and will eventually fall behind more motivated IDEs. Also, the whole "IDE specific to one language/domain" thing is a little Janky when, IDEA with plugins vs the "specialised" IDEs can differ so much. I feel JB are trying to build a single code base to spawn multiple, separately marketed, product more than any advantage to end-users. For a while I had to keep switching from PyCharm to IDEA just for Jenkinsfile support.. [0] more context: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27475432/pycharm-docstrings-linking-to-classes https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27475432/pycharm-docstri...
- ajford 5y ago
  That's par for the course with JetBrains. I'm a big fan of PyCharm, don't get me wrong. It was the first IDE I've tried out of maybe a dozen that actually gave me a reason to convert from Vim with plugins and a number of self-written project mgmt/organization tools. That said, JetBrains often rolls out new things while sitting on long-standing bugs. There's three or four issues in PyCharm and TeamCity that I've been tracking for a couple of years that are older than my kids. Hell, I think one of the TeamCity issues is almost old enough to get a learner's permit.
  - jonnycomputer 5y ago
    This is true.
nicolaslem 5y ago
Frankly VS Code scares me. Just like Google Chrome, it went from nothing to being the IDE that everyone use. Just like Google Chrome it is backed by a corporation that does not have the user's best interest in mind. Now I read an article that basically explains that Django is declining because of its poor support in VS Code, that cannot be a good sign.
- eirki 5y ago
  I think the comparison between VS Code and Chrome is spot on. Monoculture in the text editor/IDE space is a very real risk right now.

Chris2048 5y ago

Pycharm gets little love, esp comapred to the free alternative, VS code. I actually like, use, and pay for PyCharm, but it annoys me when JB chase new (ds) customers with DataSpell, or teams management stuff with "Space", When long standing, trivial Pycharm bugs have gone unfixed for years; https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-14743 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-14743 [0]. I have no hope Pycharm will innovate any time soon, and will eventually fall behind more motivated IDEs. Also, the whole "IDE specific to one language/domain" thing is a little Janky when, IDEA with plugins vs the "specialised" IDEs can differ so much. I feel JB are trying to build a single code base to spawn multiple, separately marketed, product more than any advantage to end-users. For a while I had to keep switching from PyCharm to IDEA just for Jenkinsfile support.. [0] more context: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27475432/pycharm-docstrings-linking-to-classes https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27475432/pycharm-docstri...

ajford 5y ago
That's par for the course with JetBrains. I'm a big fan of PyCharm, don't get me wrong. It was the first IDE I've tried out of maybe a dozen that actually gave me a reason to convert from Vim with plugins and a number of self-written project mgmt/organization tools. That said, JetBrains often rolls out new things while sitting on long-standing bugs. There's three or four issues in PyCharm and TeamCity that I've been tracking for a couple of years that are older than my kids. Hell, I think one of the TeamCity issues is almost old enough to get a learner's permit.
- jonnycomputer 5y ago
  This is true.

nicolaslem 5y ago

Frankly VS Code scares me. Just like Google Chrome, it went from nothing to being the IDE that everyone use. Just like Google Chrome it is backed by a corporation that does not have the user's best interest in mind. Now I read an article that basically explains that Django is declining because of its poor support in VS Code, that cannot be a good sign.

eirki 5y ago
I think the comparison between VS Code and Chrome is spot on. Monoculture in the text editor/IDE space is a very real risk right now.