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> The future of cities is being a place to live The striking part of the linked story is they didn't ask anyone why they don't want to live there, or why they

by VLM 5y ago

> The future of cities is being a place to live The striking part of the linked story is they didn't ask anyone why they don't want to live there, or why they moved away, etc. Just "tax rates always go up and after redevelopment rents will go up even more and I have no idea why nobody is here". Maybe they have a severe crime problem, or the commute is unbearable, or there's no public transit, or the city council makes bars close at 8pm so young adults can't party. There's plenty of examples from other cities of how to kill a downtown, I'm just curious what Calgary did specifically. Every city in the world has tax problems and redevelopers pushing rents upward. Whats special about Calgary is ... (maybe answer is 'nothing' which is itself the problem?)

mmastrac 5y ago
There are some major cultural issues: Everything shuts down at 5pm and people move back to the suburbs after work. It's fairly dead downtown after rush hour. Finding a coffee shop open at 8 or 9pm? Very few of them. Art isn't a priority here. Public art installations are ridiculed as a waste of money (though some are accepted over time). Museums and galleries here are minimal. Music is sterile and many groups skip playing in Alberta. It has gotten better, but Alberta had a reputation for chasing away "immoral" acts in the 90s and 2000s. Politics are toxic. The current government was elected under a cloud of electoral fraud, does not play well with the opposition and is laser-focused on oil and gas. Alberta is designed for cars and public transit is a bolt-on, expensive afterthought. This isn't unique to Alberta but it doesn't help. We do have a growing set of bike lanes and support for that has surprised me pleasantly. Alberta is rich from oil money and if you're in that club, life is good. If not, you're not important to the conversation. I was lucky to spend a lot of time travelling to the Bay Area, Seattle and other places to see what culture a town could bring beyond "being close to the mountains". I really wish this place would focus on it, but at times it feels like the province is allergic and negatively responds to having any sort of culture.
- pixelgeek 5y ago
  > Alberta is designed for cars and public transit is a bolt-on, expensive afterthought. Being downtown even in the afternoon when there are people there is horrible. There is so much traffic and noise that you don't want to even bother exploring or checking things out. I avoid downtown. > I really wish this place would focus on it, but at times it feels like the province is allergic and negatively responds to having any sort of culture. "culture' doesn't fill your campaign coffers and provide 'incentives' to local politicians.
  - UnFleshedOne 5y ago
    I recently visited downtown there, after spending a year in suburbs due to obvious reasons. Even magpies in downtown are disheveled and downtrodden. I'm not making that up... If you avoid downtown and like suburbs it's a nice city.

by VLM 5y ago

mmastrac 5y ago

There are some major cultural issues: Everything shuts down at 5pm and people move back to the suburbs after work. It's fairly dead downtown after rush hour. Finding a coffee shop open at 8 or 9pm? Very few of them. Art isn't a priority here. Public art installations are ridiculed as a waste of money (though some are accepted over time). Museums and galleries here are minimal. Music is sterile and many groups skip playing in Alberta. It has gotten better, but Alberta had a reputation for chasing away "immoral" acts in the 90s and 2000s. Politics are toxic. The current government was elected under a cloud of electoral fraud, does not play well with the opposition and is laser-focused on oil and gas. Alberta is designed for cars and public transit is a bolt-on, expensive afterthought. This isn't unique to Alberta but it doesn't help. We do have a growing set of bike lanes and support for that has surprised me pleasantly. Alberta is rich from oil money and if you're in that club, life is good. If not, you're not important to the conversation. I was lucky to spend a lot of time travelling to the Bay Area, Seattle and other places to see what culture a town could bring beyond "being close to the mountains". I really wish this place would focus on it, but at times it feels like the province is allergic and negatively responds to having any sort of culture.

pixelgeek 5y ago
> Alberta is designed for cars and public transit is a bolt-on, expensive afterthought. Being downtown even in the afternoon when there are people there is horrible. There is so much traffic and noise that you don't want to even bother exploring or checking things out. I avoid downtown. > I really wish this place would focus on it, but at times it feels like the province is allergic and negatively responds to having any sort of culture. "culture' doesn't fill your campaign coffers and provide 'incentives' to local politicians.
- UnFleshedOne 5y ago
  I recently visited downtown there, after spending a year in suburbs due to obvious reasons. Even magpies in downtown are disheveled and downtrodden. I'm not making that up... If you avoid downtown and like suburbs it's a nice city.