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If you write an article with "we spotted", then please provide some image material, even if only a graph.

zhte415 5y ago
While I'm no astrophysiyst I don't think it's a matter of 'their sun was there last week, look, this week it's not' and nor do I think an artist's impression of something orbiting nothing adds any more, nay, indeed adds nothing, to the written description.
- wongarsu 5y ago
  The paper contains figures like [1] or [2], which I think do add something to the written description (and obviously the paper authors thought so too, otherwise they wouldn't have included it in the paper). These visuals are quite useful when talking about what we mean by "spotted" (though the context is important and the article only spends maybe two paragraphs on the actual observation method, so there's some danger of misinterpretation) 1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/10 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/1... 2: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/7
  - simonh 5y ago
    Those images would be copyrighted, so may not be available to the publisher of the article.
    - sigg3 5y ago
      Where are all the graphical artists at? We had an Ask HN here, like yesterday.
    - wongarsu 5y ago
      I'm sure the authors and their institutions would be happy to grant the right to use the images in an article about the paper if somebody asked them. Publicity for the finding is in their best interest. Unless their publishing agreement with Nature restricts this, not sure how strict exclusivity is in those cases
      - simonh 5y ago
        In some cases, for some papers it might be possible to eventually get rights to the charts that would satisfy your own publisher's legal department yes. They'd have to jump through those hoops every time though, and time is money.
purplecats 5y ago
It seems to be the cool thing to do lately. Especially if you have a visual web app, a tool that has a functional GUI component, or a breaking story about the planet or a new piece of hardware, you must make sure not to include the one thing that would make it most worthwhile -- a picture.
reedf1 5y ago
You'd probably be disappointed. The best you could hope for is a graph of luminous flux vs time, showing the slightest decrease as the planet transits some emission nebulae.
nsonha 5y ago
Astronomy "images" are computer generated anyway, often with artistic touches.
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While I'm no astrophysiyst I don't think it's a matter of 'their sun was there last week, look, this week it's not' and nor do I think an artist's impression of something orbiting nothing adds any more, nay, indeed adds nothing, to the written description.

wongarsu 5y ago
The paper contains figures like [1] or [2], which I think do add something to the written description (and obviously the paper authors thought so too, otherwise they wouldn't have included it in the paper). These visuals are quite useful when talking about what we mean by "spotted" (though the context is important and the article only spends maybe two paragraphs on the actual observation method, so there's some danger of misinterpretation) 1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/10 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/1... 2: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6/figures/7
- simonh 5y ago
  Those images would be copyrighted, so may not be available to the publisher of the article.
  - sigg3 5y ago
    Where are all the graphical artists at? We had an Ask HN here, like yesterday.
  - wongarsu 5y ago
    I'm sure the authors and their institutions would be happy to grant the right to use the images in an article about the paper if somebody asked them. Publicity for the finding is in their best interest. Unless their publishing agreement with Nature restricts this, not sure how strict exclusivity is in those cases
    - simonh 5y ago
      In some cases, for some papers it might be possible to eventually get rights to the charts that would satisfy your own publisher's legal department yes. They'd have to jump through those hoops every time though, and time is money.

purplecats 5y ago

It seems to be the cool thing to do lately. Especially if you have a visual web app, a tool that has a functional GUI component, or a breaking story about the planet or a new piece of hardware, you must make sure not to include the one thing that would make it most worthwhile -- a picture.

reedf1 5y ago

You'd probably be disappointed. The best you could hope for is a graph of luminous flux vs time, showing the slightest decrease as the planet transits some emission nebulae.

nsonha 5y ago

Astronomy "images" are computer generated anyway, often with artistic touches.

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