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How much faith do you have in nutrition science? How sure are you that they know all the vitamins, fatty acids, amino acids, etc that are important to your hea

How much faith do you have in nutrition science? How sure are you that they know all the vitamins, fatty acids, amino acids, etc that are important to your health? We know for sure that there are vitamins that it is pretty much impossible to get with a normal vegan diet (without either taking a supplement or consciously consuming certain foods to supplement) such as vitamin B-12. Other minerals such as iron are more bio-available when consumed as part of meat. Humans evolved as omnivores. Human nutritional needs evolved based on what an omnivore diet provided. If you think that nutrition science is at the stage where they completely understand all the macro and micro nutrients that meat provides and are confident that supplements can match that, then go for it. As for me, I don't quite have that confidence.

shyiko 5y ago
I'd suggest going over https://veganspeak.info/ https://veganspeak.info/.
- speedybird 5y ago
  This page is really lame propaganda and is using the typical lazy emotionally manipulative arguments I've come to expect from vegans. For instance: >Humans are omnivores: > This is still debated in the scientific community. There’s a substantial amount of evidence pointing towards us being herbivores, or at least scavengers (like rats, who eat meat after the animal’s been killed by other predators). Scavengers that eat meat and vegetable matter are omnivores; omnivore does not imply predator. Rats are omnivores even if you don't count scavenging for some reason; they kill and eat smaller rodents and bugs. Lots of animals are scavengers, including many that don't have negative reputations as vermin; bears are a great example. Humans in the modern era also scavenge; lots of people in America eat roadkilled deer. Arguably, buying meat from a store is 'scavenging' too since somebody else killed it. In two mere sentences this 'refutation' creates a false dichotomy and tries to exploit biases against rats and scavenging. Really lame.
cyounkins 5y ago
Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria but can be obtained through meat and animal products. Historically we got plenty through unsterilized water as well. It is really the only required supplementation for vegans. If you are into the science you may like NutritionFacts.org - Dr. Greger goes DEEP into the studies and science. I'm pretty sure he's done a video on forms of iron.
- istorical 5y ago
  It seems as if you responded to someone saying "are you confident you know what components are needed and that all components have been identified?" with "one component we've identified is vitamin b12, it's possible to get it via blah blah blah". Feels like sort of a non-sequitur?

shyiko 5y ago

I'd suggest going over https://veganspeak.info/ https://veganspeak.info/.

speedybird 5y ago
This page is really lame propaganda and is using the typical lazy emotionally manipulative arguments I've come to expect from vegans. For instance: >Humans are omnivores: > This is still debated in the scientific community. There’s a substantial amount of evidence pointing towards us being herbivores, or at least scavengers (like rats, who eat meat after the animal’s been killed by other predators). Scavengers that eat meat and vegetable matter are omnivores; omnivore does not imply predator. Rats are omnivores even if you don't count scavenging for some reason; they kill and eat smaller rodents and bugs. Lots of animals are scavengers, including many that don't have negative reputations as vermin; bears are a great example. Humans in the modern era also scavenge; lots of people in America eat roadkilled deer. Arguably, buying meat from a store is 'scavenging' too since somebody else killed it. In two mere sentences this 'refutation' creates a false dichotomy and tries to exploit biases against rats and scavenging. Really lame.

cyounkins 5y ago

Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria but can be obtained through meat and animal products. Historically we got plenty through unsterilized water as well. It is really the only required supplementation for vegans. If you are into the science you may like NutritionFacts.org - Dr. Greger goes DEEP into the studies and science. I'm pretty sure he's done a video on forms of iron.

istorical 5y ago
It seems as if you responded to someone saying "are you confident you know what components are needed and that all components have been identified?" with "one component we've identified is vitamin b12, it's possible to get it via blah blah blah". Feels like sort of a non-sequitur?