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> Why is it desirable for Congress Humans are dumb and they buy it, and it sets the precedent. We have to make laws sometimes. You can barely even buy a TV wit

> Why is it desirable for Congress Humans are dumb and they buy it, and it sets the precedent. We have to make laws sometimes. You can barely even buy a TV without smart features now and yet everyone that knows about such features that don't want them still HAVE to buy them if they want a gd tv. Should we just make it legal for oil companies to have no consequences for oil spills because it doesn't really affect much, we can just stop eating fish in the sea. There's still plenty of food elsewhere.

akerl_ 5y ago
Maybe they’re not dumb and they’re making their own choices differently than you make yours. Oil spills harm the environment. We regulate them because the ocean can’t just choose to not receive the oil, not out of a desire to make sure we can keep eating fish. EDIT: To say the thing out loud: I buy smart TVs on purpose, and I’d like to think I’m a smart person who understands the technology involved. Is the case you’re making that I am in fact dumb?
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Ed Snowden might https://mashable.com/article/wikileaks-snowden-interview https://mashable.com/article/wikileaks-snowden-interview
- rhacker 5y ago
  Well, I think all of them are dumb, including me. I'm not going to finger point at you specifically and call you dumb because that is rude (unfortunately yes, my subtext is). I'd say half of my choices are dumb, and yes when we find that most of the time people are making dumb choices that put humanity in a worse and worse situation, maybe it's time to drop in some laws to slow that down. I mean go and look at the other HN thread on 100K US deaths per year on plastic. I mean I bought plastic today and highly likely will do so again tomorrow.
  - akerl_ 5y ago
    I might recommend taking a step back and re-examining this stance and considering the possibility that there are people who disagree with your stance because they hold different opinions and values, not just because they’re dumb.
    - emptysongglass 5y ago
      No, they're definitely dumb just like you and I are definitely dumb in the sense that we are terrible making decisions which are holistic on a longer timescale. We evolved to be dumb at these things but not being dumb is what we need right now so we need to exert power downstream to stop us from our temptations to make our dumb decisions in the heat of the moment like oh god I'll just use Facebook so I can buy this stupid thing on Marketplace even though participation in Facebook net harms humanity.

akerl_ 5y ago

Maybe they’re not dumb and they’re making their own choices differently than you make yours. Oil spills harm the environment. We regulate them because the ocean can’t just choose to not receive the oil, not out of a desire to make sure we can keep eating fish. EDIT: To say the thing out loud: I buy smart TVs on purpose, and I’d like to think I’m a smart person who understands the technology involved. Is the case you’re making that I am in fact dumb?

Apocryphon 5y ago
Ed Snowden might https://mashable.com/article/wikileaks-snowden-interview https://mashable.com/article/wikileaks-snowden-interview
rhacker 5y ago
Well, I think all of them are dumb, including me. I'm not going to finger point at you specifically and call you dumb because that is rude (unfortunately yes, my subtext is). I'd say half of my choices are dumb, and yes when we find that most of the time people are making dumb choices that put humanity in a worse and worse situation, maybe it's time to drop in some laws to slow that down. I mean go and look at the other HN thread on 100K US deaths per year on plastic. I mean I bought plastic today and highly likely will do so again tomorrow.
- akerl_ 5y ago
  I might recommend taking a step back and re-examining this stance and considering the possibility that there are people who disagree with your stance because they hold different opinions and values, not just because they’re dumb.
  - emptysongglass 5y ago
    No, they're definitely dumb just like you and I are definitely dumb in the sense that we are terrible making decisions which are holistic on a longer timescale. We evolved to be dumb at these things but not being dumb is what we need right now so we need to exert power downstream to stop us from our temptations to make our dumb decisions in the heat of the moment like oh god I'll just use Facebook so I can buy this stupid thing on Marketplace even though participation in Facebook net harms humanity.