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...which is doomed to death whenever Google stops with the security updates for the very specific hardware it runs on. In fairness, IIRC, this is actually the f

...which is doomed to death whenever Google stops with the security updates for the very specific hardware it runs on. In fairness, IIRC, this is actually the fault of Qualcomm providing, and eventually ceasing to provide, Google with hardware security updates of some sort. The point is that these fun projects to circumvent baked-in awfulness are practically destined to stop working properly due to the nature of the hardware itself. It's always better, if possible, to support the non-awful varietal. In this case, I guess that's "almost any other VR headset, lacking a login requirement". Does Steam count?

ekianjo 5y ago
So on phone the only real alternative is SailFishOS ?
- opan 5y ago
  Check out postmarketOS, Mobian, and NixOS Mobile. They support some OnePlus phones and a few others in addition to the PinePhone and Librem 5. pmOS has the most devices supported (although amount of stuff working varies per device). Sailfish uses a proprietary UI, so I hesitate to recommend it. There's an alternative that replaces their UI, can't recall the name right now.
  - khimaros 5y ago
    Nemo
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    all the things you mentioned are hardly production ready though. PostmarketOS compatibility has issues on tons of devices, and Mobian can't run much applications anyway.
  - m4rtink 5y ago
    Indeed, eventually a fully open mature mobile distro will replace Sailfish OS, but at the moment its the only reasonably open mobile OS fit for daily use.
mhio 5y ago
Are graphene releases/support completed tied to google releases/support? I had assumed they were able to update their version of android for a phone beyond what google does. edit - found it https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices > It cannot do that once device support code like firmware, kernel and vendor code is no longer actively maintained. Even if the community was prepared to take over maintenance of the open source code and to replace the rest, firmware would present a major issue, and the community has never been active or interested enough in device support to consider attempting this

ekianjo 5y ago

So on phone the only real alternative is SailFishOS ?

opan 5y ago
Check out postmarketOS, Mobian, and NixOS Mobile. They support some OnePlus phones and a few others in addition to the PinePhone and Librem 5. pmOS has the most devices supported (although amount of stuff working varies per device). Sailfish uses a proprietary UI, so I hesitate to recommend it. There's an alternative that replaces their UI, can't recall the name right now.
- khimaros 5y ago
  Nemo
- ekianjo 5y ago
  all the things you mentioned are hardly production ready though. PostmarketOS compatibility has issues on tons of devices, and Mobian can't run much applications anyway.
- m4rtink 5y ago
  Indeed, eventually a fully open mature mobile distro will replace Sailfish OS, but at the moment its the only reasonably open mobile OS fit for daily use.

mhio 5y ago

Are graphene releases/support completed tied to google releases/support? I had assumed they were able to update their version of android for a phone beyond what google does. edit - found it https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices > It cannot do that once device support code like firmware, kernel and vendor code is no longer actively maintained. Even if the community was prepared to take over maintenance of the open source code and to replace the rest, firmware would present a major issue, and the community has never been active or interested enough in device support to consider attempting this