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> refuse to accept college IDs [...] more likely to vote for the "wrong" party How is that different from accepting college IDs because students are more likel

> refuse to accept college IDs [...] more likely to vote for the "wrong" party How is that different from accepting college IDs because students are more likely to vote for the "right" party? Seems like both options are biased one way or another.

loeg 5y ago
The point is that all state-issued IDs should be accepted.
- exporectomy 5y ago
  But how is that less biased? That will still be biased one way or another (eg. more college students than gun licensees, or whatever) so regardless of whether they allow all of them or none of them or an arbitrary subset of them, it will still be biased and I don't think there's any objective set of acceptable IDs that isn't biased.
  - bena 5y ago
    Stop and think about this for a second. College students are residents. The policies of the local government affect them. Regardless of who they'd vote for, they deserve a say. If concealed carry licenses are accepted, student IDs should be as well. That's what he's saying.
    - dmatech 5y ago
      It's actually pretty complicated. https://www.ncsl.org/Documents/Elections/The_Canvass_May_2016.pdf https://www.ncsl.org/Documents/Elections/The_Canvass_May_201...
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  - tzs 5y ago
    If a sufficient range of state IDs are accepted that everyone who is eligible to vote can freely and easily get one, then it is not biased by definition.
    - exporectomy 5y ago
      Sure, but there is no such range of IDs in America, is there? It seems like a choice from a set of various not-easily-and freely-obtainable-to-everyone IDs.
  - loeg 5y ago
    Are you asserting that it is biased for the successfully-IDed voters to reflect the demographics of the underlying voter population? I don't think that makes sense.
beecafe 5y ago
At least there they have the option of voting for the other party, rather than being disenfranchised
spywaregorilla 5y ago
No voter id requirements is a pretty neutral option.

loeg 5y ago

The point is that all state-issued IDs should be accepted.

exporectomy 5y ago
But how is that less biased? That will still be biased one way or another (eg. more college students than gun licensees, or whatever) so regardless of whether they allow all of them or none of them or an arbitrary subset of them, it will still be biased and I don't think there's any objective set of acceptable IDs that isn't biased.
- bena 5y ago
  Stop and think about this for a second. College students are residents. The policies of the local government affect them. Regardless of who they'd vote for, they deserve a say. If concealed carry licenses are accepted, student IDs should be as well. That's what he's saying.
  - dmatech 5y ago
    It's actually pretty complicated. https://www.ncsl.org/Documents/Elections/The_Canvass_May_2016.pdf https://www.ncsl.org/Documents/Elections/The_Canvass_May_201...
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- tzs 5y ago
  If a sufficient range of state IDs are accepted that everyone who is eligible to vote can freely and easily get one, then it is not biased by definition.
  - exporectomy 5y ago
    Sure, but there is no such range of IDs in America, is there? It seems like a choice from a set of various not-easily-and freely-obtainable-to-everyone IDs.
- loeg 5y ago
  Are you asserting that it is biased for the successfully-IDed voters to reflect the demographics of the underlying voter population? I don't think that makes sense.

beecafe 5y ago

At least there they have the option of voting for the other party, rather than being disenfranchised

spywaregorilla 5y ago

No voter id requirements is a pretty neutral option.