> It's either a fiction or it's real. This I disagree with. Nations are real in the sense that they have a material impact on the world, but are fictions in th

> It's either a fiction or it's real. This I disagree with. Nations are real in the sense that they have a material impact on the world, but are fictions in the sense that they only exist when people believe in their existence. It's like money. Obviously money is real - I have some in my wallet right now - but if no one believed in the currency then it wouldn't exist. It would just be pieces of paper. > Nations as constructed obviously provide value to the people residing there I would quibble with the assertion that this is the _reason_ nations are constructed, but I do agree that they provide value. Some people's lives are just more complicated. I'm a dual citizen myself, with two citizenships from birth. I was born in Canada from two American parents. I've had two passports all my life. I happen to live in the US but I've never really chosen one country over the other. I derive identify from being a citizen of North America. There are plenty of people with slightly more complicated than average stories, they should be able to exist.