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If anything, Cannonical is aligning with mainstream in recent years: upstart -> systemd, unity -> gnome, mir -> wayland New things that are Canonical specific

If anything, Cannonical is aligning with mainstream in recent years: upstart -> systemd, unity -> gnome, mir -> wayland New things that are Canonical specific are netplan and snap. I think snap is solving software packaging in Linux. If anything, I wish that snap brand stores were more affordable.

Zardoz84 5y ago
Use flatpack
- app4soft 5y ago
  Use AppImage + firejail (optionally, to fully sandbox AppImage)
  - xiaomai 5y ago
    I want to like AppImage, but it is just unreasonable that there is no built-in way to trivially install a .desktop file for a given AppImage I've downloaded.
    - app4soft 5y ago
      > there is no built-in way to trivially install a .desktop file for a given AppImage I've downloaded Here it is.[0,1] [0] https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher [1] https://docs.appimage.org/reference/desktop-integration.html https://docs.appimage.org/reference/desktop-integration.html
  - handrous 5y ago
    I've tried AppImage, Flatpack, and Snap, and AppImage is the only one that approaches tolerable.
    - Fnoord 5y ago
      Tried Nixpkgs?
c7DJTLrn 5y ago
Still dumping snapd into their server distro for some reason though.
michaelmrose 5y ago
It would seem that snap brand stores are essentially hosted private repos something one could do for Ubuntu for as little as $5 a month. Why not just use those?
nsonha 5y ago
what's wrong with snap? is it that it needs a deamon?
- orloffm 5y ago
  Four issues with Snap: 1) You don't have control over how it updates packages. By default it can eat your LTE if you run your laptop after a while, for example. 2) It's eating into apt world. They are migrating programs into it which could've been usual apt packages. 3) It normalized longer startup times. 4) There are still issues with file system interop etc, but I personally can't provide an example.
  - nsonha 5y ago
    > There are still issues with file system interop etc, but I personally can't provide an example. Is that why my firefox downloads file into a tmp directory instead of ~/Downloads? I also used to have vscode unable to sudo but it's no longer the case, maybe it's flatpak now, haven't checked

Zardoz84 5y ago

Use flatpack

app4soft 5y ago
Use AppImage + firejail (optionally, to fully sandbox AppImage)
- xiaomai 5y ago
  I want to like AppImage, but it is just unreasonable that there is no built-in way to trivially install a .desktop file for a given AppImage I've downloaded.
  - app4soft 5y ago
    > there is no built-in way to trivially install a .desktop file for a given AppImage I've downloaded Here it is.[0,1] [0] https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher [1] https://docs.appimage.org/reference/desktop-integration.html https://docs.appimage.org/reference/desktop-integration.html
- handrous 5y ago
  I've tried AppImage, Flatpack, and Snap, and AppImage is the only one that approaches tolerable.
  - Fnoord 5y ago
    Tried Nixpkgs?

c7DJTLrn 5y ago

Still dumping snapd into their server distro for some reason though.

michaelmrose 5y ago

It would seem that snap brand stores are essentially hosted private repos something one could do for Ubuntu for as little as $5 a month. Why not just use those?

nsonha 5y ago

what's wrong with snap? is it that it needs a deamon?

orloffm 5y ago
Four issues with Snap: 1) You don't have control over how it updates packages. By default it can eat your LTE if you run your laptop after a while, for example. 2) It's eating into apt world. They are migrating programs into it which could've been usual apt packages. 3) It normalized longer startup times. 4) There are still issues with file system interop etc, but I personally can't provide an example.
- nsonha 5y ago
  > There are still issues with file system interop etc, but I personally can't provide an example. Is that why my firefox downloads file into a tmp directory instead of ~/Downloads? I also used to have vscode unable to sudo but it's no longer the case, maybe it's flatpak now, haven't checked