> Invisible man in the sky not doing it for me. Reasonable. Because such an understand of (the Christian) God is indeed simplistic. But most folks don't have t

> Invisible man in the sky not doing it for me. Reasonable. Because such an understand of (the Christian) God is indeed simplistic. But most folks don't have the time or energy to get into theology and the notion of (e.g.) Aquinas of God being "ipsum esse subsistens": "the shear act of 'to be' itself." * https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/9781351477703 https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/9781351477703 > I used to believe in God. Until I learned about the Holocaust. One death camp survivor wrote: "If there's a God he owes me an apology. The faith of plenty of folks in the concentration camps didn't seem to be phased much by what they endured: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest_Barracks_of_Dachau_Concentration_Camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest_Barracks_of_Dachau_Conc... Suffering is not new, especially for Christians: the first three centuries weren't very pleasant. By tradition the Pope often wears red shoes to remember the martyrs. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_shoes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_shoes As Tertullian wrote "the blood of the Christians is the seed of a new life": * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologeticus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologeticus This predates things in the Christian tradition with the Book of Job; Bp. Barron has a few good videos on suffering: > In the Bible no one seems to think that God's existence, indeed the existence of a loving God, is somehow incompatible with suffering. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfK5xYK0EzQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfK5xYK0EzQ * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07AWWJiyAU8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07AWWJiyAU8 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9WNWplC_zI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9WNWplC_zI