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> then charging me $2350 to file the divorce papers. So, if I understand correctly, the very fact that I was squirted out here in this country puts me at a -$2

> then charging me $2350 to file the divorce papers. So, if I understand correctly, the very fact that I was squirted out here in this country puts me at a -$2350 just for being born. So US citizenship = -$2350

op00to 5y ago
Really? you were squirted out into a modern society managed by modern government institutions. Ignoring the fact that you’re discounting the miracle of life, you certainly took advantage of more than $2350 of services upon birth. Security, med school funding, Medicare hospital funding, road infrastructure…
- Hamuko 5y ago
  You're assuming that the person in this scenario ever actually lived in the US. You can get an American citizenship without ever actually living there, which will then just make your life harder and if you want to make your life easier, that'll be $2350.
  - shapefrog 5y ago
    They walk the earth under the protection of the US government. Anywhere anytime they need it, uncle sam will save them, or bomb the shit out of anyone that dares harms them. A very cheap lifetime insurance policy for $2350. Civis romanus sum
    - kalleboo 5y ago
      This is a myth. It is not true. There are many cases where the US has deemed it not worth it to rescue a handful of citizens.
      - shapefrog 5y ago
        >There are many cases where the US has deemed it not worth it And there are many cases where they have. This guy certainly got his $2,000 worth when Seal Team 6 swooped in, killed a bunch of people and rescued him. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/philip-walton-niger-us-citizen-rescued-kidnapped-operation-b1480313.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-electio... Trump administration had over the years rescued 55 hostages in 24 countries. Their only qualification of rescue, being american citizens. > This is a myth. It is not true. Thus it is true, and it is not a myth.
        BigRedDog1669 5y ago
        They were implying it is a myth that the US gov WILL decide to help you, not MIGHT decide to help you. A lottery ticket is not an insurance policy.
    - pmfgpmfg 5y ago
      If you want protection from the US government while in another country, you have to enter that country on a US passport [1]. [1] https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/before-you-go/travelers-with-special-considerations/Dual-Nationality-Travelers.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra...
  - op00to 5y ago
    They still take advantage of the citizenship no matter where they are. People waste more money on lottery tickets.
001Diana 5y ago
Yes, and if you aren’t 5 years tax compliant when you pay that $2350 you owe 20% of the value of all your assets too.

op00to 5y ago

Really? you were squirted out into a modern society managed by modern government institutions. Ignoring the fact that you’re discounting the miracle of life, you certainly took advantage of more than $2350 of services upon birth. Security, med school funding, Medicare hospital funding, road infrastructure…

Hamuko 5y ago
You're assuming that the person in this scenario ever actually lived in the US. You can get an American citizenship without ever actually living there, which will then just make your life harder and if you want to make your life easier, that'll be $2350.
- shapefrog 5y ago
  They walk the earth under the protection of the US government. Anywhere anytime they need it, uncle sam will save them, or bomb the shit out of anyone that dares harms them. A very cheap lifetime insurance policy for $2350. Civis romanus sum
  - kalleboo 5y ago
    This is a myth. It is not true. There are many cases where the US has deemed it not worth it to rescue a handful of citizens.
    - shapefrog 5y ago
      >There are many cases where the US has deemed it not worth it And there are many cases where they have. This guy certainly got his $2,000 worth when Seal Team 6 swooped in, killed a bunch of people and rescued him. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/philip-walton-niger-us-citizen-rescued-kidnapped-operation-b1480313.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-electio... Trump administration had over the years rescued 55 hostages in 24 countries. Their only qualification of rescue, being american citizens. > This is a myth. It is not true. Thus it is true, and it is not a myth.
      - BigRedDog1669 5y ago
        They were implying it is a myth that the US gov WILL decide to help you, not MIGHT decide to help you. A lottery ticket is not an insurance policy.
  - pmfgpmfg 5y ago
    If you want protection from the US government while in another country, you have to enter that country on a US passport [1]. [1] https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/before-you-go/travelers-with-special-considerations/Dual-Nationality-Travelers.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra...
- op00to 5y ago
  They still take advantage of the citizenship no matter where they are. People waste more money on lottery tickets.

001Diana 5y ago

Yes, and if you aren’t 5 years tax compliant when you pay that $2350 you owe 20% of the value of all your assets too.