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It reads like a hostage statement at gunpoint.

by wgx 15y ago

wisty 15y ago
Who's the hostage? It looks like they are trying to say Google is now responsible to ensure Android is defended. Perhaps they are trying to get it on the record that Google will not try to sue them? I'm not a lawyer, but it almost sounds like some kind estoppel thing.
- recoiledsnake 15y ago
  >Who's the hostage? It looks like they are trying to say Google is now responsible to ensure Android is defended. What if their reaction was frank? Something like "We are concerned that this acquisition is lopsided and will hurt the major OEMs since now Motorola will have very big advantages that we won't. The DoJ and EU should look at forcing Google to give the same access to Android to us as they would do to their new hardware division." >Who's the hostage? The fact that it was a canned PR release from Google that they echoed instead of the above shows who's the hostage.
jonknee 15y ago
They're all hostages of patents and Google has an opportunity to stage a breakout. It could not go that way of course, but the opportunity is certainly there. I'd love to see Google play absolute hardball on anyone who comes after their Android partners.
- recoiledsnake 15y ago
  Google's been withholding source code for Android lately. If they decide not to give access to the Android Marketplace, Google Maps etc to an OEM for any reason, the OEM is as good as finished, since forking the OS is a big deal. While patents are a thorn on the side, they do not threaten the bread and butter of OEMs like even just delaying the release of source code(that the new Moto division already has from a long time prior) does.
- prostoalex 15y ago
  Why not stage breakout by buying the patent part of the business, transferring those to a foundation, and leaving the hardware business to MMI?
  - jonknee 15y ago
    Maybe they weren't for sale separately?
olalonde 15y ago
http://bash.org/?99060 http://bash.org/?99060 t0rbad> so there i was in this hallway right BlackAdder> i believe i speak for all of us when i say... BlackAdder> WRONG BTICH BlackAdder> IM SICK OF YOU BlackAdder> AND YOUR LAME STORIES BlackAdder> NOBODY HERE THINKS YOURE FUNNY BlackAdder> NOBODY HERE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR STORIES BlackAdder> IN FACT BlackAdder> IF YOU DIED RIGHT NOW BlackAdder> I DON"T THINK NOBODY WOULD CARE BlackAdder> SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT FAG *** t0rbad sets mode: +b BlackAdder*!*@*.* *** BlackAdder has been kicked my t0rbad ( ) t0rbad> so there i was in this hallway right CRCError> right heartless> Right. r3v> right

It reads like a hostage statement at gunpoint.

by wgx 15y ago

It reads like a hostage statement at gunpoint.

wisty 15y ago

Who's the hostage? It looks like they are trying to say Google is now responsible to ensure Android is defended. Perhaps they are trying to get it on the record that Google will not try to sue them? I'm not a lawyer, but it almost sounds like some kind estoppel thing.

recoiledsnake 15y ago
>Who's the hostage? It looks like they are trying to say Google is now responsible to ensure Android is defended. What if their reaction was frank? Something like "We are concerned that this acquisition is lopsided and will hurt the major OEMs since now Motorola will have very big advantages that we won't. The DoJ and EU should look at forcing Google to give the same access to Android to us as they would do to their new hardware division." >Who's the hostage? The fact that it was a canned PR release from Google that they echoed instead of the above shows who's the hostage.

jonknee 15y ago

They're all hostages of patents and Google has an opportunity to stage a breakout. It could not go that way of course, but the opportunity is certainly there. I'd love to see Google play absolute hardball on anyone who comes after their Android partners.

recoiledsnake 15y ago
Google's been withholding source code for Android lately. If they decide not to give access to the Android Marketplace, Google Maps etc to an OEM for any reason, the OEM is as good as finished, since forking the OS is a big deal. While patents are a thorn on the side, they do not threaten the bread and butter of OEMs like even just delaying the release of source code(that the new Moto division already has from a long time prior) does.
prostoalex 15y ago
Why not stage breakout by buying the patent part of the business, transferring those to a foundation, and leaving the hardware business to MMI?
- jonknee 15y ago
  Maybe they weren't for sale separately?

olalonde 15y ago

http://bash.org/?99060 http://bash.org/?99060 t0rbad> so there i was in this hallway right BlackAdder> i believe i speak for all of us when i say... BlackAdder> WRONG BTICH BlackAdder> IM SICK OF YOU BlackAdder> AND YOUR LAME STORIES BlackAdder> NOBODY HERE THINKS YOURE FUNNY BlackAdder> NOBODY HERE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR STORIES BlackAdder> IN FACT BlackAdder> IF YOU DIED RIGHT NOW BlackAdder> I DON"T THINK NOBODY WOULD CARE BlackAdder> SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT FAG *** t0rbad sets mode: +b BlackAdder*!*@*.* *** BlackAdder has been kicked my t0rbad ( ) t0rbad> so there i was in this hallway right CRCError> right heartless> Right. r3v> right