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Missouri is not even remotely considered to be in "the south". At least not by those who live there or in neighboring states.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Missouri is not even remotely considered to be in "the south". No, but it is both South-adjacent and is considered to be largely within the Bible Belt, which is almost exactly coextensive with the South, except that it excludes parts of Southern Florida and includes all or part of several South-adjacent states, so it's not an entirely hard fo understand mistake.
javajosh 5y ago
You're right! It's part of the midwest officially. Apparently it does share at least some of the classic characteristics of the southern states.
- jeremyjh 5y ago
  I think it has no more in common with them than other non-southern red states.
- daltont 5y ago
  University of Missouri sports teams are in the Southeastern Conference (SEC). Part of me wanted them in the Big-10 since I identify more as being from the northern mid-west. Got to follow the $$$.
handrous 5y ago
I know a lot of people who regard it as a hybrid southern/midwestern state. Plenty of confederate flags to be found in Missouri, certainly, and the MU/KU rivalry is, on our side at least, heavy on "bleeding Kansas" rhetoric and imagery, which keeps Missouri's Southern-sympathizing role in the war alive in our popular culture (such as it is). Lots and lots of our local icons, oft-mentioned historical figures, et c., relate back to the war, and especially folks who supported the Confederacy. County seats with those late-addition cheap confederate soldier memorial-statutes outside the courthouse are, AFAIK, quite common in the state.
- CountDrewku 5y ago
  You can find Confederate flags in northern states and all over the US. That doesn't suddenly make it more "southern". I live in CO now and I see more confederate flags than I ever saw in MO.
- jeremyjh 5y ago
  You can find racists and rebels anywhere. If you order a sweet tea in any restaurant in Missouri they will look at you like you have three heads.
  - handrous 5y ago
    Not true at all, but the sweet tea they serve you will probably be mediocre at best, that's true. A few places will serve you unsweet tea (all they have, as a cost-savings measure) with sugar packets, as if that's the same thing, which admittedly is an offense worthy of challenging your server and/or the restaurant owner to a duel.
- jessaustin 5y ago
  County seats with those late-addition cheap confederate soldier memorial-statutes outside the courthouse are, AFAIK, quite common in the state. This seems libelous. Can you provide a single example of such a statue? I drive through several county seats in Missouri multiple times a week. There are WWII and Vietnam memorials, and actually several Civil War Union memorials, but not a single confederate memorial.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Missouri is not even remotely considered to be in "the south". No, but it is both South-adjacent and is considered to be largely within the Bible Belt, which is almost exactly coextensive with the South, except that it excludes parts of Southern Florida and includes all or part of several South-adjacent states, so it's not an entirely hard fo understand mistake.

javajosh 5y ago

You're right! It's part of the midwest officially. Apparently it does share at least some of the classic characteristics of the southern states.

jeremyjh 5y ago
I think it has no more in common with them than other non-southern red states.
daltont 5y ago
University of Missouri sports teams are in the Southeastern Conference (SEC). Part of me wanted them in the Big-10 since I identify more as being from the northern mid-west. Got to follow the $$$.

handrous 5y ago

I know a lot of people who regard it as a hybrid southern/midwestern state. Plenty of confederate flags to be found in Missouri, certainly, and the MU/KU rivalry is, on our side at least, heavy on "bleeding Kansas" rhetoric and imagery, which keeps Missouri's Southern-sympathizing role in the war alive in our popular culture (such as it is). Lots and lots of our local icons, oft-mentioned historical figures, et c., relate back to the war, and especially folks who supported the Confederacy. County seats with those late-addition cheap confederate soldier memorial-statutes outside the courthouse are, AFAIK, quite common in the state.

CountDrewku 5y ago
You can find Confederate flags in northern states and all over the US. That doesn't suddenly make it more "southern". I live in CO now and I see more confederate flags than I ever saw in MO.
jeremyjh 5y ago
You can find racists and rebels anywhere. If you order a sweet tea in any restaurant in Missouri they will look at you like you have three heads.
- handrous 5y ago
  Not true at all, but the sweet tea they serve you will probably be mediocre at best, that's true. A few places will serve you unsweet tea (all they have, as a cost-savings measure) with sugar packets, as if that's the same thing, which admittedly is an offense worthy of challenging your server and/or the restaurant owner to a duel.
jessaustin 5y ago
County seats with those late-addition cheap confederate soldier memorial-statutes outside the courthouse are, AFAIK, quite common in the state. This seems libelous. Can you provide a single example of such a statue? I drive through several county seats in Missouri multiple times a week. There are WWII and Vietnam memorials, and actually several Civil War Union memorials, but not a single confederate memorial.