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How dare you did "View Source", you hacker.

by codegeek 5y ago

jakelazaroff 5y ago
What's "view source", some kind of hacking instructions? Sounds like you're abetting.
- dylan604 5y ago
  As long as you're not aiding at the same time. Aiding & abetting is a no-no. Aiding OR abetting is not claimed to be an issue.
  - amirhirsch 5y ago
    you mean Aiding XOR abetting. consider the forum.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      why does it have to be exclusive? If both are false, then there's no confusion on making a charge. If only one is true, then someone being lazy might think it matches. along your lines of considering the forum, wouldn't it need to be aiding && abetting? i don't know how to bitwise compare aiding to abetting.
- tombert 5y ago
  I think "view source" is a hacking tool invented by the notorious hacker group "4chan". I say we start a change.org petition to get Google to remove it from Chrome.
  - theandrewbailey 5y ago
    In all seriousness, considering Google's track record of discontinuing useful services and features, I expect Chrome to drop View Source any release now. It will be a sad day.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      Who browses the web without the DevTools exposed by default? I don't know how to make the web work without "fixing" web pages before attempting to read them.
      - jaywalk 5y ago
        Who browses the web with Dev Tools exposed by default? Why do you feel the need to "fix" every web page you look at?
        dylan604 5y ago
        websites attempting to poorly comply with cookie banners and other GDPR regs that block a site from working without accepting something. I just display:none the offending elements and then remove the overflow:hidden. Disabling JS usually works, but sometimes the images in the page are lazy loaded via JS and will not load without.
        jaywalk 5y ago
        Here you go: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/super-agent-automatic-coo/neooppigbkahgfdhbpbhcccgpimeaafi https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/super-agent-automa...
        dylan604 5y ago
        Thanks for playing, but I do not use Chrome. Also, I'm a bit perverse in my enjoyment of doing this on my own.
        rvbissell 5y ago
        Can websites fingerprint visitors by the particular set of browser extensions/plugins/whatever they have installed? If so, wouldn't extensions such as this one be self-defeating, once you have a handful of them?
        theandrewbailey 5y ago
  - Shared404 5y ago
    I think "view source" was actually invented by the Russians, then leaked by "4chan" - They're an individual, not a group. You probably got it mixed up with Lunix, that was invented by "4chan".
    - tombert 5y ago
      Completely tangential, but have you seen LUnix (Little Unix)? It's actually pretty impressive for something on the C64. Full on preemptive multitasking seems pretty impressive for something as little as the Commodore. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix
      - Shared404 5y ago
        I hadn't, but I may be trying to rig that up in an emulator later, that seems awesome!
        tombert 5y ago
        I've only played with it a bit, certainly not enough to make any real definitive statements about it, but I think for what it is it's pretty impressive...stuff like that always makes me wonder why Commodore wasn't more successful [1]. [1] I know LUnix didn't come out until 1993, so it would have been too late to save Commodore, and certainly past the C64's prime. It just demonstrates what the C64 was capable of.
jaycroft 5y ago
Counterpoint that might get some attention: "The Governor is in possession of software on his personal computer that allows him to decrypt the personal details of thousands of constituents who may have voted for or against him." The "software" being a web browser, of course.
Buttons840 5y ago
> you hacker What a "hacker" is is a matter of definition. But, the fact is the state was using "encryption" with such a level of security that pressing one button on any computer with a browser is all that is required to defeat it.
- jaycroft 5y ago
  And I'll bet even the governor has access to this decryption software - he's got it installed on his phone, even! He must be hacking on the go.
dylan604 5y ago
Better hope they only used View Source. Could you imagine the federal crime of using curl or wget to retrieve this data?
hoppla 5y ago
Some serious Jedi business going on here

How dare you did "View Source", you hacker.

jakelazaroff 5y ago

What's "view source", some kind of hacking instructions? Sounds like you're abetting.

dylan604 5y ago
As long as you're not aiding at the same time. Aiding & abetting is a no-no. Aiding OR abetting is not claimed to be an issue.
- amirhirsch 5y ago
  you mean Aiding XOR abetting. consider the forum.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    why does it have to be exclusive? If both are false, then there's no confusion on making a charge. If only one is true, then someone being lazy might think it matches. along your lines of considering the forum, wouldn't it need to be aiding && abetting? i don't know how to bitwise compare aiding to abetting.
tombert 5y ago
I think "view source" is a hacking tool invented by the notorious hacker group "4chan". I say we start a change.org petition to get Google to remove it from Chrome.
- theandrewbailey 5y ago
  In all seriousness, considering Google's track record of discontinuing useful services and features, I expect Chrome to drop View Source any release now. It will be a sad day.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Who browses the web without the DevTools exposed by default? I don't know how to make the web work without "fixing" web pages before attempting to read them.
    - jaywalk 5y ago
      Who browses the web with Dev Tools exposed by default? Why do you feel the need to "fix" every web page you look at?
      - dylan604 5y ago
        websites attempting to poorly comply with cookie banners and other GDPR regs that block a site from working without accepting something. I just display:none the offending elements and then remove the overflow:hidden. Disabling JS usually works, but sometimes the images in the page are lazy loaded via JS and will not load without.
        jaywalk 5y ago
        Here you go: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/super-agent-automatic-coo/neooppigbkahgfdhbpbhcccgpimeaafi https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/super-agent-automa...
        dylan604 5y ago
        Thanks for playing, but I do not use Chrome. Also, I'm a bit perverse in my enjoyment of doing this on my own.
        rvbissell 5y ago
        Can websites fingerprint visitors by the particular set of browser extensions/plugins/whatever they have installed? If so, wouldn't extensions such as this one be self-defeating, once you have a handful of them?
        theandrewbailey 5y ago
- Shared404 5y ago
  I think "view source" was actually invented by the Russians, then leaked by "4chan" - They're an individual, not a group. You probably got it mixed up with Lunix, that was invented by "4chan".
  - tombert 5y ago
    Completely tangential, but have you seen LUnix (Little Unix)? It's actually pretty impressive for something on the C64. Full on preemptive multitasking seems pretty impressive for something as little as the Commodore. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix
    - Shared404 5y ago
      I hadn't, but I may be trying to rig that up in an emulator later, that seems awesome!
      - tombert 5y ago
        I've only played with it a bit, certainly not enough to make any real definitive statements about it, but I think for what it is it's pretty impressive...stuff like that always makes me wonder why Commodore wasn't more successful [1]. [1] I know LUnix didn't come out until 1993, so it would have been too late to save Commodore, and certainly past the C64's prime. It just demonstrates what the C64 was capable of.

jaycroft 5y ago

Counterpoint that might get some attention: "The Governor is in possession of software on his personal computer that allows him to decrypt the personal details of thousands of constituents who may have voted for or against him." The "software" being a web browser, of course.

Buttons840 5y ago

> you hacker What a "hacker" is is a matter of definition. But, the fact is the state was using "encryption" with such a level of security that pressing one button on any computer with a browser is all that is required to defeat it.

jaycroft 5y ago
And I'll bet even the governor has access to this decryption software - he's got it installed on his phone, even! He must be hacking on the go.

dylan604 5y ago

Better hope they only used View Source. Could you imagine the federal crime of using curl or wget to retrieve this data?

hoppla 5y ago

Some serious Jedi business going on here