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I remember a few years back the phrase "global weirding" was circulating to indicate that weather around the world is expected to get more volatile (rather than

I remember a few years back the phrase "global weirding" was circulating to indicate that weather around the world is expected to get more volatile (rather than just warmer across the board). With "global weirding" in mind are there any areas that are experiencing cooler climate than historical average?

monkeyfacebag 5y ago
All I have is my personal experience that SF felt especially cold this summer.
nend 5y ago
Here's the map for 2020: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2020 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2020 Looks like India and parts of Canada/Alaska experienced slightly cooler temps, as well as a decent area over water. For 2019, large parts of interior Canada and the US, as well as parts of Oceania. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2019 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2019 One of the other noticeable things about those maps is Siberia. Affected quite a bit by warmer temps in both years.
Diederich 5y ago
"weather weirding" will tend to statistically disappear quite quickly given any kind of averaging. A better measure is the number of incidents of weather extremes: heat, cold, rain, drought, storms. I'm not going to look those up right now, but there's a ton of evidence that those incidents are going up dramatically.
- baq 5y ago
  That’s the point - to highlight that weather isn’t climate. Average temp up 2 deg Celsius means 100F weird weather in the polar circle in the summer.
DesiLurker 5y ago
I started to call this 'weather randomization' because thats what it is.
chroem- 5y ago
> I remember a few years back the phrase "global weirding" was circulating to indicate that weather around the world is expected to get more volatile (rather than just warmer across the board). Isn't this a predicted observation in the case of increased media reporting?
mistrial9 5y ago
rain replaces snow in some places, which changes a lot of things; plants and water that change local weather, change; overall trend of desertification ("becoming a desert") is big
WorldMaker 5y ago
One perspective to look at "global weirding" is that global climate change right now is seeing a massive influx of new energy, and not all energy becomes heat. So the volatility implied in "global weirding" doesn't necessarily mean we'll see much in the way of record lows/record cold places (though we'll still see some), but we'll see more energy in the climate in general: stronger winds, stronger storms, more storms, storms in different places "than usual". We're seeing a lot of that indeed: this is the second tropical storm season in a row we've exhausted the prepared number of about 22 alphabetical "English first names" and have moved on to Greek letters and other stopgaps. We've seen tropical storms hit more places, including some big activity in what used to be "far north" for tropical storm season such as New York state. We've seen an expansion/shifting of "Tornado Alley" in the United States. States that never previously had tornado drills have had to add them and start trying to educate their residents. We have seen some record snow storms and some record single day lows in many cities, especially in "wind chill" lows that factors in increased cold wind velocity, even if no one city can claim to be that much cooler than it was before.
rufus_foreman 5y ago
"South Pole posts most severe cold season on record" -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/10/01/south-pole-coldest-winter-record/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/10/01/south-pole...

monkeyfacebag 5y ago

All I have is my personal experience that SF felt especially cold this summer.

nend 5y ago

Here's the map for 2020: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2020 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2020 Looks like India and parts of Canada/Alaska experienced slightly cooler temps, as well as a decent area over water. For 2019, large parts of interior Canada and the US, as well as parts of Oceania. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2019 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/mapping/2019 One of the other noticeable things about those maps is Siberia. Affected quite a bit by warmer temps in both years.

Diederich 5y ago

"weather weirding" will tend to statistically disappear quite quickly given any kind of averaging. A better measure is the number of incidents of weather extremes: heat, cold, rain, drought, storms. I'm not going to look those up right now, but there's a ton of evidence that those incidents are going up dramatically.

baq 5y ago
That’s the point - to highlight that weather isn’t climate. Average temp up 2 deg Celsius means 100F weird weather in the polar circle in the summer.

DesiLurker 5y ago

I started to call this 'weather randomization' because thats what it is.

chroem- 5y ago

> I remember a few years back the phrase "global weirding" was circulating to indicate that weather around the world is expected to get more volatile (rather than just warmer across the board). Isn't this a predicted observation in the case of increased media reporting?

mistrial9 5y ago

rain replaces snow in some places, which changes a lot of things; plants and water that change local weather, change; overall trend of desertification ("becoming a desert") is big

WorldMaker 5y ago

One perspective to look at "global weirding" is that global climate change right now is seeing a massive influx of new energy, and not all energy becomes heat. So the volatility implied in "global weirding" doesn't necessarily mean we'll see much in the way of record lows/record cold places (though we'll still see some), but we'll see more energy in the climate in general: stronger winds, stronger storms, more storms, storms in different places "than usual". We're seeing a lot of that indeed: this is the second tropical storm season in a row we've exhausted the prepared number of about 22 alphabetical "English first names" and have moved on to Greek letters and other stopgaps. We've seen tropical storms hit more places, including some big activity in what used to be "far north" for tropical storm season such as New York state. We've seen an expansion/shifting of "Tornado Alley" in the United States. States that never previously had tornado drills have had to add them and start trying to educate their residents. We have seen some record snow storms and some record single day lows in many cities, especially in "wind chill" lows that factors in increased cold wind velocity, even if no one city can claim to be that much cooler than it was before.

rufus_foreman 5y ago

"South Pole posts most severe cold season on record" -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/10/01/south-pole-coldest-winter-record/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/10/01/south-pole...