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Love that NOAA is getting shit done. They just redid the climate.gov website to be more useful: https://www.climate.gov/ https://www.climate.gov/

by Glench 5y ago

ahevia 5y ago
I’m just hoping there’s enough momentum and support for addressing climate change that NOAA can keep getting things done. Regardless of who might be in office in the future. Last thing we need is a new administration in 2024 completely undoing all the progress we’re making again.
- perfunctory 5y ago
  What is your hope based on? Genuinely curious. All evidence shows that there is neither momentum nor support, next to nothing is being done and global emissions just keep rising.
  - WorldMaker 5y ago
    I read "just hoping" as "wishing for" not "have hope that".
  - ahevia 5y ago
    My hope comes from personal experience. Not exactly empirical. I’ve been involved in the climate movement for a long time now (since before I was even a teenager) and things have improved vastly during my life alone. If you asked me this question a few years ago I would be down in the dumps, but what I see around me these days has me much more positive of how humanity makes it through this. (I’m sorry I don’t really have one specific link or citation. Yale Climate Communication is a good place to start though) There is still a lot of losses and a lot of inaction. I don’t know if humanity will have a peaceful time mid or late century, but I don’t think the situation is as dire as it used to be.
    - varelse 5y ago
      Right before he died, David MacKay did a study indicating we needed to rely on an insane amount of nuclear to survive (but we live in a world insanely against nuclear power). Since then the price of solar energy has plummeted. Has anyone done the study to update these numbers? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/03/idea-of-renewables-powering-uk-is-an-appalling-delusion-david-mackay https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment...
    - perfunctory 5y ago
      Thanks for your answer. I, for one, am not holding my breath. Not until the global emissions chart flattens at least.
systemvoltage 5y ago
Only if we have the tenth of competence in SSA and DMVs (state run) around the US. I want some strong leader to abolish them and start again. Fire all the useless employees that corrupt these places if they don’t improve. I’m paying for this. And so are you. And we should expect nothing but excellence. It’s harsh but this is what I feel.
- bigbillheck 5y ago
  I've lived in and gotten drivers licenses in several states and in none of them were there any problems with the DMVs that couldn't have been improved by hiring more people. It seems like a pretty thankless job, and I would by no means want to do it.
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    At this point, your anecdote doesn't help - heck, DMV's inefficiencies are so widely known and even featured in some movies: https://www.google.com/search?q=dmv+sloth https://www.google.com/search?q=dmv+sloth
    - AutumnCurtain 5y ago
      It seems deeply odd to say anecdotes don't help and then talk about movies, if it doesn't help him it doesn't help you
    - bigbillheck 5y ago
      There are lots of things that are 'widely known and even featured in some movies' which have no basis in fact (or if they ever did, it's long gone). For an example relevant to here, consider how movies depict operating a computer and how that relates to one's own lived experiences.
- anonporridge 5y ago
  Make work, bullshit jobs is basically a crude mechanism for a kind of UBI for many people. Our governments are deeply disincentivized to cleanup these inefficiencies because it means higher unemployment. This is one of the reasons I'm a strong supporting of an actual UBI + universal healthcare. If people's lives aren't destroyed and driven to death by poverty if they don't have a job, then there won't be as much moral and political hazard to eliminating bullshit jobs in favor a system that works better for all of us.

Love that NOAA is getting shit done. They just redid the climate.gov website to be more useful: https://www.climate.gov/ https://www.climate.gov/

by Glench 5y ago

Love that NOAA is getting shit done. They just redid the climate.gov website to be more useful: https://www.climate.gov/ https://www.climate.gov/

ahevia 5y ago

I’m just hoping there’s enough momentum and support for addressing climate change that NOAA can keep getting things done. Regardless of who might be in office in the future. Last thing we need is a new administration in 2024 completely undoing all the progress we’re making again.

perfunctory 5y ago
What is your hope based on? Genuinely curious. All evidence shows that there is neither momentum nor support, next to nothing is being done and global emissions just keep rising.
- WorldMaker 5y ago
  I read "just hoping" as "wishing for" not "have hope that".
- ahevia 5y ago
  My hope comes from personal experience. Not exactly empirical. I’ve been involved in the climate movement for a long time now (since before I was even a teenager) and things have improved vastly during my life alone. If you asked me this question a few years ago I would be down in the dumps, but what I see around me these days has me much more positive of how humanity makes it through this. (I’m sorry I don’t really have one specific link or citation. Yale Climate Communication is a good place to start though) There is still a lot of losses and a lot of inaction. I don’t know if humanity will have a peaceful time mid or late century, but I don’t think the situation is as dire as it used to be.
  - varelse 5y ago
    Right before he died, David MacKay did a study indicating we needed to rely on an insane amount of nuclear to survive (but we live in a world insanely against nuclear power). Since then the price of solar energy has plummeted. Has anyone done the study to update these numbers? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/03/idea-of-renewables-powering-uk-is-an-appalling-delusion-david-mackay https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment...
  - perfunctory 5y ago
    Thanks for your answer. I, for one, am not holding my breath. Not until the global emissions chart flattens at least.

systemvoltage 5y ago

Only if we have the tenth of competence in SSA and DMVs (state run) around the US. I want some strong leader to abolish them and start again. Fire all the useless employees that corrupt these places if they don’t improve. I’m paying for this. And so are you. And we should expect nothing but excellence. It’s harsh but this is what I feel.

bigbillheck 5y ago
I've lived in and gotten drivers licenses in several states and in none of them were there any problems with the DMVs that couldn't have been improved by hiring more people. It seems like a pretty thankless job, and I would by no means want to do it.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  At this point, your anecdote doesn't help - heck, DMV's inefficiencies are so widely known and even featured in some movies: https://www.google.com/search?q=dmv+sloth https://www.google.com/search?q=dmv+sloth
  - AutumnCurtain 5y ago
    It seems deeply odd to say anecdotes don't help and then talk about movies, if it doesn't help him it doesn't help you
  - bigbillheck 5y ago
    There are lots of things that are 'widely known and even featured in some movies' which have no basis in fact (or if they ever did, it's long gone). For an example relevant to here, consider how movies depict operating a computer and how that relates to one's own lived experiences.
anonporridge 5y ago
Make work, bullshit jobs is basically a crude mechanism for a kind of UBI for many people. Our governments are deeply disincentivized to cleanup these inefficiencies because it means higher unemployment. This is one of the reasons I'm a strong supporting of an actual UBI + universal healthcare. If people's lives aren't destroyed and driven to death by poverty if they don't have a job, then there won't be as much moral and political hazard to eliminating bullshit jobs in favor a system that works better for all of us.