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The trouble is, it's not actually a fallacy when we're talking about the benefits of forcing the remaining people to get vaccinated. The main supposed justifica
by makomk 5y ago
The trouble is, it's not actually a fallacy when we're talking about the benefits of forcing the remaining people to get vaccinated. The main supposed justification for forcing people to get vaccinated right now is that it'll prevent the hospital system from becoming overwhelmed by stopping them being hospitalized, and this is why they're supposedly harming others by refusing to be vaccinated. Obviously this doesn't work at all once the vast majority of people who're hospitalized due to Covid-19 are vaccinated.
(The other misleading trick is to do stuff like quoting figures starting in January. What matters is the hospitalization rate right now, which is very different - less than 1% of people in the UK were fully vaccinated back in January and it's a similar story in other countries.)
- finite_jest 5y agoThat's an interesting point, although for that we should be using hospitalization numbers instead of deaths. I think you would agree that if the rest of the population got vaccinated, the load on the hospitals would probably decrease by some amount. Knowing how much merit the argument of the hospitals being overwhelmed has requires some careful analysis based on the actual numbers. Sadly, that seems to be too much of an expectation from the people who call themselves journalists (and fact-checkers seem to only do marginally better).
- m0zg 5y agoAt least in the US, by the way, it's nowhere near "overwhelmed": https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization. These are fairly normal numbers this time of year. Yet if you listen to the "free" press, you'd think we're piling up the bodies in the freezer trailers at this point. Horseshit, all of it. We're being lied to.