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I run a NAS with syncthing and a dappnode at home. The dappnode runs Storj, which I allocated about 2TB. It is paying me now about 6€/month, which is barely eno

I run a NAS with syncthing and a dappnode at home. The dappnode runs Storj, which I allocated about 2TB. It is paying me now about 6€/month, which is barely enough to cover the electricity costs and the cost of the drive. It certainly hasn't helped to cover any of the cost from the NAS. Decentralized solutions are always going to be less cost-effective than central services. We still should do it anyway. Optimizing for cost is a mistake. It makes us overly dependent on the big companies. It makes us fragile and susceptible to any change in their terms.

8fingerlouie 5y ago
> It makes us fragile and susceptible to any change in their terms. Which is why you should backup your data locally (or somewhere else), but even if self hosting, you should still have a backup of your data. I personally backup everything at home, and if/when their terms change, it's simply a matter of restoring data onto the new solution (local or remote), and i'm up and running again.
- rglullis 5y ago
  Yes, of course. Syncthing is not a backup solution. Luckily the amount of data that I have that is considered private and valuable is not that much (~100GB of family photos and videos, some scanned documents) so my backup strategy has been good old SneakerNet. I have a couple of thumb drives that I leave with family, and occasionally get them back to check/refresh.
  - 8fingerlouie 5y ago
    I keep my data in the cloud, a local (versioned) backup, and for irreplaceable data like photos, i also burn identical M-disc media at least every year. One stored at home, another in a remote location. While i will probably have worse problems to deal with in case the cloud disappears and my local data is gone as well, chances are that once those are solved, my family photos will not be a problem after those :)
    - rglullis 5y ago
      I think for me the original comment was not just about the data, it was also about "what if the cloud disappears". Financially, it might make sense to pay MS a few bucks an year for a service. Philosophically, the idea is much harder to stomach. I am far from being a card-carrying member of /r/datahoarder, but I don't like the idea of supporting (much less depending on) streaming services, and I would pay for a subscription service if it was based on open source.

8fingerlouie 5y ago

> It makes us fragile and susceptible to any change in their terms. Which is why you should backup your data locally (or somewhere else), but even if self hosting, you should still have a backup of your data. I personally backup everything at home, and if/when their terms change, it's simply a matter of restoring data onto the new solution (local or remote), and i'm up and running again.

rglullis 5y ago
Yes, of course. Syncthing is not a backup solution. Luckily the amount of data that I have that is considered private and valuable is not that much (~100GB of family photos and videos, some scanned documents) so my backup strategy has been good old SneakerNet. I have a couple of thumb drives that I leave with family, and occasionally get them back to check/refresh.
- 8fingerlouie 5y ago
  I keep my data in the cloud, a local (versioned) backup, and for irreplaceable data like photos, i also burn identical M-disc media at least every year. One stored at home, another in a remote location. While i will probably have worse problems to deal with in case the cloud disappears and my local data is gone as well, chances are that once those are solved, my family photos will not be a problem after those :)
  - rglullis 5y ago
    I think for me the original comment was not just about the data, it was also about "what if the cloud disappears". Financially, it might make sense to pay MS a few bucks an year for a service. Philosophically, the idea is much harder to stomach. I am far from being a card-carrying member of /r/datahoarder, but I don't like the idea of supporting (much less depending on) streaming services, and I would pay for a subscription service if it was based on open source.