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You don't really have to put so much effort into dissecting their verbiage. It's guaranteed that any kernel anti-cheat is going to be invasive and inspect every

You don't really have to put so much effort into dissecting their verbiage. It's guaranteed that any kernel anti-cheat is going to be invasive and inspect everything on the system while looking for cheats.

KennyBlanken 5y ago
No, it's absolutely not guaranteed. Especially in competitive shooters, performance is paramount. They have a strong motivation to only look where they need to. And anti-cheat isn't a money-maker, so they're not going to be spending lots of money storing user data they don't have to. Cheat software has to do things like nose around in the game's memory space that no legitimate program is going to do. It also contains in its memory space keywords common to cheat programs. That sort of search isn't really invasive because generally anti-cheat software when it triggers takes an screenshot, and if you're playing the game, there's nothing personal on the screen. Maybe a process is fingerprinted as a known cheat package. Say your kill to death ratio or hit/miss is unusually good. Or you get reported by a higher than normal number of people. Or a human moderator pushes a request, for whatever reason. Or they get a hit on the 'greps' I mentioned, etc. The goal is to see if you've got a screen overlay that betrays wallhacking (ie "glasswalling") or a cheat system's UI. That's all they care about.
- IanSanders 5y ago
  > And anti-cheat isn't a money-maker, so they're not going to be spending lots of money storing user data they don't have to. user data can absolutely be a money-maker
  - OldTimeCoffee 5y ago
    I don't think anyone is going to pay for K/D data from CoD. Data can be if it's useful, this isn't useful to anyone outside the people playing the game.
- saagarjha 5y ago
  I’ve heard of people being flagged for having things like a debugger open, or files with names that happen to match cheating tools. I don’t think it’s correct to present anticheat as just sitting around screenshotting the computer to find cheat UI.
- RattleyCooper 5y ago
  I've actually had anti-cheat software flag programs as possible cheating tools and refused to run a game until I literally remove the suspected software from my computer (when it wasn't even running). So while what you say certainly makes sense, I don't think that it's accurate.

KennyBlanken 5y ago

No, it's absolutely not guaranteed. Especially in competitive shooters, performance is paramount. They have a strong motivation to only look where they need to. And anti-cheat isn't a money-maker, so they're not going to be spending lots of money storing user data they don't have to. Cheat software has to do things like nose around in the game's memory space that no legitimate program is going to do. It also contains in its memory space keywords common to cheat programs. That sort of search isn't really invasive because generally anti-cheat software when it triggers takes an screenshot, and if you're playing the game, there's nothing personal on the screen. Maybe a process is fingerprinted as a known cheat package. Say your kill to death ratio or hit/miss is unusually good. Or you get reported by a higher than normal number of people. Or a human moderator pushes a request, for whatever reason. Or they get a hit on the 'greps' I mentioned, etc. The goal is to see if you've got a screen overlay that betrays wallhacking (ie "glasswalling") or a cheat system's UI. That's all they care about.

IanSanders 5y ago
> And anti-cheat isn't a money-maker, so they're not going to be spending lots of money storing user data they don't have to. user data can absolutely be a money-maker
- OldTimeCoffee 5y ago
  I don't think anyone is going to pay for K/D data from CoD. Data can be if it's useful, this isn't useful to anyone outside the people playing the game.
saagarjha 5y ago
I’ve heard of people being flagged for having things like a debugger open, or files with names that happen to match cheating tools. I don’t think it’s correct to present anticheat as just sitting around screenshotting the computer to find cheat UI.
RattleyCooper 5y ago
I've actually had anti-cheat software flag programs as possible cheating tools and refused to run a game until I literally remove the suspected software from my computer (when it wasn't even running). So while what you say certainly makes sense, I don't think that it's accurate.