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I thought Texas was all about individual choice / responsibility. /s.

by sanp 5y ago

soylentnewsorg 5y ago
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- theonemind 5y ago
  Last I checked, Texas gets back about 92 cents for every dollar it sends to the Federal level, so even if the state "is about getting as much federal money as possible", Texas loses money to the Federal government. I say that as someone that generally finds the state reprehensible, but facts are facts.
  - pm90 5y ago
    The majority of Red States don’t.
    - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
      The majority of red states are welfare states. The majority of blue states are too. There are only 11 states that pay for All federal expenditures. What is even more interesting is that internal to the red states, their blue areas pay almost all the state income taxes, and while having a higher population get less votes for state officials. Because once those people are in power, they commit election fraud in every election from that point on. looking at pictures of the district lines in red states is hilarious.
      - da_big_ghey 5y ago
        Cant believe unsubstantial lies on election fraud are now in HN also. I demand sources.
        dylan604 5y ago
        I think the government with their gerrymandering redistricting are the one committing the most obvious of election frauds. However, the reporting on gerrymandering depnds on the source of information on if it exists or not. Just a quick look at a map of the Texas districts should be evidence enough.
        soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_S... texas makes the top 5 twice. but don't take my word for it. take a look at a picture. https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/21313.jpeg https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/21313.jpeg
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        ryan_j_naughton 5y ago
        Gerrymandering is obviously reprehensible and should be abolished (as should the system by which politicians get a say in drawing districts). That being said, it is a stretch to say politicians are committing "election fraud" because of gerrymandering. The process by which districts are drawn is sadly legal. The supreme court cast of Davis v. Bandemer, while establishing that partisan gerrymandering violates the Equal Protection Clause and is a justiciable matter, it failed to agree on a clear standard for the judicial review of the class of claims of a political nature to which such cases belong. Thus, that supreme court case effectively has no teeth and the partisan system by which we draw districts currently is sadly illegal. Thus, it is incorrect to say politicians are committing election fraud through gerrymandering.
        soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        miller v johnson would be a case you should look up, from 1995, which made gerrymandering illegal. so it is absolutely correct to state they are committing election fraud, if they are using a federally illegal action to get elected. cases of suspected gerrymandering are taken to court, often lost by the election fraudsters, and districts are then more fairly withdrawn. this does not stop the gop, and to a smaller extent the libs, from continually doing it. the only penalty for doing it, is they lose the election they would have lost without the fraud. there is no downside to trying. the process by which districts are drawn is absolutely not legal if gerrymandering is used. here's the issue with places like texas: no one is suing to redraw the lines, because the population is of low iq, of high anger, and easily manipulated to actually support this illegal action. >failed to agree on a clear standard for the judicial review which has nothing to do with making something legal or not. gerrymandering is illegal. the standard for judicial review is left open, and up to the judge in each case >the partisan system by which we draw districts currently is sadly illegal. >it is a stretch to say politicians are committing "election fraud" because of gerrymandering it's a stretch to say people getting elected using an illegal process are committing election fraud. gotcha. you're very good at stretching. mental gymnast?
  - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
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    - twofornone 5y ago
      >But I'll explain to you why your redneck source says "92 cents" without actually knowing your source >instead of obvious misinformation designed to fool only the dumbest of rednecks Its weird how in the age of anti-racism, certain forms of casual bigotry have become socially acceptable.
salawat 5y ago
It's been getting diluted by the Californian diaspora. Also, I wouldn't put it passed the People running things who brought us the ERCOT disaster to also have managed to make a time bomb out of this. The medical infra down here is garbage compared to the rest of the country. Interestingly though, it'd be Texan as hell to make the most of them Fedbux. Tell you what.
- igetspam 5y ago
  Are you high? This is all Abbott. California immigration has nothing to do with the BS we're going through. Governor death only cares about free enterprise when it's in support of religious right wing ideologies and will gladly stifle businesses that don't follow his perverted version of conservatism. He's a trump thumper with eyes on the white house and thinks personal choice is not something to afforded to the left, the center or the moderate right.
  - sonofhans 5y ago
    You know, I expect we’re both going to get downvoted in this thread, but I love that you called him “Governor Death.” What he’s doing is mind-boggling.
    - igetspam 5y ago
      I gladly accept the -1. I've been in Texas for a while. I don't plan to stay. It isn't safe or sane here. Between gerrymandering away people of color, preventing businesses from mandating masks to promote public safety and taking away women's rights, that pice of sh*t seems intent on making this place incompatible with non god testing white men and the women who blindly accept their station in that life. (I can't take credit for the nickname. I think I picked it up from some ATX native DevOps folks.)
- heartbreak 5y ago
  > The medical infra down here is garbage compared to the rest of the country. My experience in this extremely large state is limited, but I know that the medical infrastructure in Houston is the best in the world. > Houston’s Texas Medical Center is the world’s largest medical complex by several measures: number of hospitals, number of physicians, square footage and patient volume. > Scientists at TMC-affiliated institutions, most notably Baylor College of Medicine, Houston Methodist, and MD Anderson are advancing life science breakthroughs across dozens of research centers and more than 300 research laboratories. And that's just the Texas Medical Center. https://www.houston.org/houston-data/health-care-houston https://www.houston.org/houston-data/health-care-houston
StLCylone 5y ago
Now government overreach, apparently.

I thought Texas was all about individual choice / responsibility. /s.

by sanp 5y ago

I thought Texas was all about individual choice / responsibility. /s.

soylentnewsorg 5y ago

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theonemind 5y ago
Last I checked, Texas gets back about 92 cents for every dollar it sends to the Federal level, so even if the state "is about getting as much federal money as possible", Texas loses money to the Federal government. I say that as someone that generally finds the state reprehensible, but facts are facts.
- pm90 5y ago
  The majority of Red States don’t.
  - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
    The majority of red states are welfare states. The majority of blue states are too. There are only 11 states that pay for All federal expenditures. What is even more interesting is that internal to the red states, their blue areas pay almost all the state income taxes, and while having a higher population get less votes for state officials. Because once those people are in power, they commit election fraud in every election from that point on. looking at pictures of the district lines in red states is hilarious.
    - da_big_ghey 5y ago
      Cant believe unsubstantial lies on election fraud are now in HN also. I demand sources.
      - dylan604 5y ago
        I think the government with their gerrymandering redistricting are the one committing the most obvious of election frauds. However, the reporting on gerrymandering depnds on the source of information on if it exists or not. Just a quick look at a map of the Texas districts should be evidence enough.
      - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_S... texas makes the top 5 twice. but don't take my word for it. take a look at a picture. https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/21313.jpeg https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/21313.jpeg
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        ryan_j_naughton 5y ago
        Gerrymandering is obviously reprehensible and should be abolished (as should the system by which politicians get a say in drawing districts). That being said, it is a stretch to say politicians are committing "election fraud" because of gerrymandering. The process by which districts are drawn is sadly legal. The supreme court cast of Davis v. Bandemer, while establishing that partisan gerrymandering violates the Equal Protection Clause and is a justiciable matter, it failed to agree on a clear standard for the judicial review of the class of claims of a political nature to which such cases belong. Thus, that supreme court case effectively has no teeth and the partisan system by which we draw districts currently is sadly illegal. Thus, it is incorrect to say politicians are committing election fraud through gerrymandering.
        soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        miller v johnson would be a case you should look up, from 1995, which made gerrymandering illegal. so it is absolutely correct to state they are committing election fraud, if they are using a federally illegal action to get elected. cases of suspected gerrymandering are taken to court, often lost by the election fraudsters, and districts are then more fairly withdrawn. this does not stop the gop, and to a smaller extent the libs, from continually doing it. the only penalty for doing it, is they lose the election they would have lost without the fraud. there is no downside to trying. the process by which districts are drawn is absolutely not legal if gerrymandering is used. here's the issue with places like texas: no one is suing to redraw the lines, because the population is of low iq, of high anger, and easily manipulated to actually support this illegal action. >failed to agree on a clear standard for the judicial review which has nothing to do with making something legal or not. gerrymandering is illegal. the standard for judicial review is left open, and up to the judge in each case >the partisan system by which we draw districts currently is sadly illegal. >it is a stretch to say politicians are committing "election fraud" because of gerrymandering it's a stretch to say people getting elected using an illegal process are committing election fraud. gotcha. you're very good at stretching. mental gymnast?
- soylentnewsorg 5y ago
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  - twofornone 5y ago
    >But I'll explain to you why your redneck source says "92 cents" without actually knowing your source >instead of obvious misinformation designed to fool only the dumbest of rednecks Its weird how in the age of anti-racism, certain forms of casual bigotry have become socially acceptable.

salawat 5y ago

It's been getting diluted by the Californian diaspora. Also, I wouldn't put it passed the People running things who brought us the ERCOT disaster to also have managed to make a time bomb out of this. The medical infra down here is garbage compared to the rest of the country. Interestingly though, it'd be Texan as hell to make the most of them Fedbux. Tell you what.

igetspam 5y ago
Are you high? This is all Abbott. California immigration has nothing to do with the BS we're going through. Governor death only cares about free enterprise when it's in support of religious right wing ideologies and will gladly stifle businesses that don't follow his perverted version of conservatism. He's a trump thumper with eyes on the white house and thinks personal choice is not something to afforded to the left, the center or the moderate right.
- sonofhans 5y ago
  You know, I expect we’re both going to get downvoted in this thread, but I love that you called him “Governor Death.” What he’s doing is mind-boggling.
  - igetspam 5y ago
    I gladly accept the -1. I've been in Texas for a while. I don't plan to stay. It isn't safe or sane here. Between gerrymandering away people of color, preventing businesses from mandating masks to promote public safety and taking away women's rights, that pice of sh*t seems intent on making this place incompatible with non god testing white men and the women who blindly accept their station in that life. (I can't take credit for the nickname. I think I picked it up from some ATX native DevOps folks.)
heartbreak 5y ago
> The medical infra down here is garbage compared to the rest of the country. My experience in this extremely large state is limited, but I know that the medical infrastructure in Houston is the best in the world. > Houston’s Texas Medical Center is the world’s largest medical complex by several measures: number of hospitals, number of physicians, square footage and patient volume. > Scientists at TMC-affiliated institutions, most notably Baylor College of Medicine, Houston Methodist, and MD Anderson are advancing life science breakthroughs across dozens of research centers and more than 300 research laboratories. And that's just the Texas Medical Center. https://www.houston.org/houston-data/health-care-houston https://www.houston.org/houston-data/health-care-houston

StLCylone 5y ago

Now government overreach, apparently.