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https://esbuild.github.io/faq/#benchmark-details https://esbuild.github.io/faq/#benchmark-details has Parcel 2 benchmarks. The summary is that you should use e

by devit 5y ago

https://esbuild.github.io/faq/#benchmark-details https://esbuild.github.io/faq/#benchmark-details has Parcel 2 benchmarks. The summary is that you should use esbuild (or swc/spack when ready) for new projects and probably switch existing ones as well if feasible. It's possible that the Parcel 2 version they used is not the released one, so maybe it improved.

scottlamb 5y ago
> It's possible that the Parcel 2 version they used is not the released one, so maybe it improved. I'd guess so because of timing and because the Parcel 2 beta 3 announcement [1] says "10x faster JavaScript compiler written in Rust [...] on top of the SWC compiler". Likely the esbuild folks benchmarked against beta 2 or earlier. [1] https://parceljs.org/blog/beta3/ https://parceljs.org/blog/beta3/
tuananh 5y ago
the benchmark looks brutal to other bundler
- devongovett 5y ago
  Note that this benchmark is dominated by Terser for minification. All tools aside from ESBuild use it.
  - kabber 5y ago
    Why not minify with esbuild instead by default?
    - devongovett 5y ago
      esbuild tends to produce larger bundles due to https://github.com/evanw/esbuild/issues/639 https://github.com/evanw/esbuild/issues/639. Looks like there was recent activity though, so we need to re-test. Anyway, there's a plugin available for now: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@parcel/optimizer-esbuild https://www.npmjs.com/package/@parcel/optimizer-esbuild. We're also excited about the SWC minifier project, which is basically a port of Terser to Rust.
      - kabber 5y ago
        This link https://github.com/privatenumber/minification-benchmarks https://github.com/privatenumber/minification-benchmarks shows swc is still a work in progress.
silasb 5y ago
Probably should add https://bun.sh/ https://bun.sh/ to the list as well, it's early but has some potential.
- hsn915 5y ago
  Is there any information other than this home page? like an announcement somewhere, a demo video, or anything similar?
- 1_player 5y ago
  Doesn't seem to be open source, only has a macOS binary, you need to request "early access" by joining their Discord... what's their target audience here? Certainly not web developers.
isthisreality 5y ago
to be fair, that's without Parcel 2's cache, which surely improves build times considerably

by devit 5y ago

scottlamb 5y ago

> It's possible that the Parcel 2 version they used is not the released one, so maybe it improved. I'd guess so because of timing and because the Parcel 2 beta 3 announcement [1] says "10x faster JavaScript compiler written in Rust [...] on top of the SWC compiler". Likely the esbuild folks benchmarked against beta 2 or earlier. [1] https://parceljs.org/blog/beta3/ https://parceljs.org/blog/beta3/

tuananh 5y ago

the benchmark looks brutal to other bundler

devongovett 5y ago
Note that this benchmark is dominated by Terser for minification. All tools aside from ESBuild use it.
- kabber 5y ago
  Why not minify with esbuild instead by default?
  - devongovett 5y ago
    esbuild tends to produce larger bundles due to https://github.com/evanw/esbuild/issues/639 https://github.com/evanw/esbuild/issues/639. Looks like there was recent activity though, so we need to re-test. Anyway, there's a plugin available for now: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@parcel/optimizer-esbuild https://www.npmjs.com/package/@parcel/optimizer-esbuild. We're also excited about the SWC minifier project, which is basically a port of Terser to Rust.
    - kabber 5y ago
      This link https://github.com/privatenumber/minification-benchmarks https://github.com/privatenumber/minification-benchmarks shows swc is still a work in progress.

silasb 5y ago

Probably should add https://bun.sh/ https://bun.sh/ to the list as well, it's early but has some potential.

hsn915 5y ago
Is there any information other than this home page? like an announcement somewhere, a demo video, or anything similar?
1_player 5y ago
Doesn't seem to be open source, only has a macOS binary, you need to request "early access" by joining their Discord... what's their target audience here? Certainly not web developers.

isthisreality 5y ago

to be fair, that's without Parcel 2's cache, which surely improves build times considerably