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I just signed up for 3 months of Mullvad a few weeks ago. So far so good. Didn't even need my name or anything. I paid anonymously. It's super fast with wir

by mig39 5y ago

I just signed up for 3 months of Mullvad a few weeks ago. So far so good. Didn't even need my name or anything. I paid anonymously. It's super fast with wireguard. No affiliate links, no special discounts, no special sales prices. No coupon codes. Just privacy.

throwawaysea 5y ago
How do you pay anonymously?
- nabaraz 5y ago
  Giftcards or crypto. You could even mail cash to pay for it.
- dtn 5y ago
  You can snailmail them cash along with a random token you get from their website/account management page, and that gets credited to your account. https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/ https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/
  - KennyBlanken 5y ago
    Every single piece of postal mail is scanned front/back. If you've signed up for the USPS's delivery notification stuff for your mailbox, that's where the scanned "previews" come from. And it's notable how often those previews show a pretty good representation of what's inside, even without messing with the preview image in an image editor to play with the levels/contrast/etc. So yeah, if you'd like to hand the feds evidence you're using a VPN, go right ahead, mail Mullvad cash?
    - Tsiklon 5y ago
      I would assume the person mailing them cash is not sending it from their mailbox on their property, but instead a public access mailbox in a town or city. If you’re worried about being actively followed by the feds and they’re tracking you drop that letter, you have much, much more to worry about than your VPN usage.
- zapt02 5y ago
  They have a variety of crypto options. You can also mail money directly to their office and if you are in Sweden you can buy physical vouchers in-store at several places (which can be paid in cash.) (Just a happy customer.)
Ansil849 5y ago
What's the point of paying anonymously if you are presumably going to be connecting to it from your IP anyway? Unless you're using it with another anonymizing option first.
- blendergeek 5y ago
  If you are using it from behind a CG-Nat this could be a very effective form of privacy.
  - Ansil849 5y ago
    Not at all. Unless there are tons of people on that network who are using the same VPN as you, it would be trivial to figure out the endpoint.
    - blendergeek 5y ago
      > Unless there are tons of people on that network who are using the same VPN as you, it would be trivial to figure out the endpoint. This is why I hedged my statement with "could be". While it's unlikely that this other condition is met, it is possible.
      - Ansil849 5y ago
        Yes, you're totally right. If the conditions are met that you are 1) behind a CG-NAT, and 2) a statistically significant sample of other users on that CG-NAT is using the same VPN node, then yes it "could be a very effective form of privacy" in this extremely unlikely and contrived example. But in most real-world cases, it is not.
- drexlspivey 5y ago
  Does your ip come attached with your name?
  - Ansil849 5y ago

by mig39 5y ago

throwawaysea 5y ago

How do you pay anonymously?

nabaraz 5y ago
Giftcards or crypto. You could even mail cash to pay for it.
dtn 5y ago
You can snailmail them cash along with a random token you get from their website/account management page, and that gets credited to your account. https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/ https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  Every single piece of postal mail is scanned front/back. If you've signed up for the USPS's delivery notification stuff for your mailbox, that's where the scanned "previews" come from. And it's notable how often those previews show a pretty good representation of what's inside, even without messing with the preview image in an image editor to play with the levels/contrast/etc. So yeah, if you'd like to hand the feds evidence you're using a VPN, go right ahead, mail Mullvad cash?
  - Tsiklon 5y ago
    I would assume the person mailing them cash is not sending it from their mailbox on their property, but instead a public access mailbox in a town or city. If you’re worried about being actively followed by the feds and they’re tracking you drop that letter, you have much, much more to worry about than your VPN usage.
zapt02 5y ago
They have a variety of crypto options. You can also mail money directly to their office and if you are in Sweden you can buy physical vouchers in-store at several places (which can be paid in cash.) (Just a happy customer.)

Ansil849 5y ago

What's the point of paying anonymously if you are presumably going to be connecting to it from your IP anyway? Unless you're using it with another anonymizing option first.

blendergeek 5y ago
If you are using it from behind a CG-Nat this could be a very effective form of privacy.
- Ansil849 5y ago
  Not at all. Unless there are tons of people on that network who are using the same VPN as you, it would be trivial to figure out the endpoint.
  - blendergeek 5y ago
    > Unless there are tons of people on that network who are using the same VPN as you, it would be trivial to figure out the endpoint. This is why I hedged my statement with "could be". While it's unlikely that this other condition is met, it is possible.
    - Ansil849 5y ago
      Yes, you're totally right. If the conditions are met that you are 1) behind a CG-NAT, and 2) a statistically significant sample of other users on that CG-NAT is using the same VPN node, then yes it "could be a very effective form of privacy" in this extremely unlikely and contrived example. But in most real-world cases, it is not.
drexlspivey 5y ago
Does your ip come attached with your name?
- Ansil849 5y ago