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Are these comments real? They are surprisingly close minded for a hacker news site. If you can't see the value apple offers, that's fine, but to be blind to wh

Are these comments real? They are surprisingly close minded for a hacker news site. If you can't see the value apple offers, that's fine, but to be blind to what they offer others seems odd. I've yet to be scammed by apple's app store. Ie, I can cancel my subscriptions easily, bad apps you can even get a refund on if prompt etc. I have been repeatedly screwed by websites run by developers outside of apple. These websites have been LOADED with trackers, they have impossible to cancel subscriptions, they do all sorts of dirty tricks (I'm tired of the intercom type follow-up emails - sorry I missed you, give me one last chance etc). I get it, the dog eat dog crapfest is appealing to some, but Apple offers an alternative, and for some people that has value. And yes, I get it, the folks making these eye blinding slow websites have lots to say about apple, but my weather app opens promptly on apple, whereas the ad littered weather pages online bog my machine (with 100x the memory) down.

dpkonofa 5y ago
I have a feeling that HN recently had an influx of users from other sites. It seems like the exodus from Reddit, for example, has resulted in a significantly larger signal to noise ratio of comments. There's a lot more impassioned nonsense that's based on article headlines rather than detailed discussion of technology and either it's just more pronounced because of the pandemic or it's actually new users that are diluting the comments. It's especially pronounced in Apple-related threads (one of the few topics that I browse HN for as there are a lot of topics I have no experience or expertise in) where all the nuance seems to have been zapped away as of late. It's either you're a complete Apple hater or a complete Apple fanboi and there's no in-between anymore. I have lots of criticisms of Apple but it seems like there's nowhere to discuss them anymore because they're immediately taken over by "Apple wants to scan your phone" and "Apple is suing mom and pop repair shops" or other hot takes that completely misunderstand their situations.
- teddyh 5y ago
  > "Apple wants to scan your phone" and "Apple is suing mom and pop repair shops" or other hot takes that completely misunderstand their situations But, IIUC, both of those are completely true.
  - dpkonofa 5y ago
    They are not. They completely lack any nuance and are based on misunderstandings of both situations.
- slownews45 5y ago
  This might be it, it's pretty noticeable. The scan your phone, repairs shops should be able to fake battery replacements or change faceID sensors without controls type stuff is also in this, or no reason for apple to make certain decisions (despite obvious reasons) etc. It's gotten to just BLIND reaction - ie, apple is done when reality is apple remains far more trusted than almost any other company (or govt) brand wise.

dpkonofa 5y ago

I have a feeling that HN recently had an influx of users from other sites. It seems like the exodus from Reddit, for example, has resulted in a significantly larger signal to noise ratio of comments. There's a lot more impassioned nonsense that's based on article headlines rather than detailed discussion of technology and either it's just more pronounced because of the pandemic or it's actually new users that are diluting the comments. It's especially pronounced in Apple-related threads (one of the few topics that I browse HN for as there are a lot of topics I have no experience or expertise in) where all the nuance seems to have been zapped away as of late. It's either you're a complete Apple hater or a complete Apple fanboi and there's no in-between anymore. I have lots of criticisms of Apple but it seems like there's nowhere to discuss them anymore because they're immediately taken over by "Apple wants to scan your phone" and "Apple is suing mom and pop repair shops" or other hot takes that completely misunderstand their situations.

teddyh 5y ago
> "Apple wants to scan your phone" and "Apple is suing mom and pop repair shops" or other hot takes that completely misunderstand their situations But, IIUC, both of those are completely true.
- dpkonofa 5y ago
  They are not. They completely lack any nuance and are based on misunderstandings of both situations.
slownews45 5y ago
This might be it, it's pretty noticeable. The scan your phone, repairs shops should be able to fake battery replacements or change faceID sensors without controls type stuff is also in this, or no reason for apple to make certain decisions (despite obvious reasons) etc. It's gotten to just BLIND reaction - ie, apple is done when reality is apple remains far more trusted than almost any other company (or govt) brand wise.