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> Hopefully more people can get involved and move the needle instead of only lamenting how they don't succeed while not actively trying to help them succeed. T
by radlad 5y ago
> Hopefully more people can get involved and move the needle instead of only lamenting how they don't succeed while not actively trying to help them succeed.
That's totally fair. I don't really have the time or Java/Kotlin/mobile familiarity to jump in here, and these aren't skills I can easily apply elsewhere in my career, personally.
> LineageOS has been going for quite a while now, CalyxOS is relatively new, and GrapheneOS (previously CopperheadOS)
My impression of these OSes is that they still rely on Google Play Services - or if not, micro-G which has many shortcomings. When most of the ecosystem doesn't work until you invite Google back in, it doesn't seem like a true alternative IMO.
Admittedly I haven't personally tried running any of them. Which one would you recommend trying if I were aiming to rid myself of Google's omnipresence?
- ev1 5y agoYou can install Lineage without Play, and only use Lineage. Graphene does not require Play Services, but it only runs on a small subset of Android phones that are ~$500+ here (heavily discouraged to use anything older than 4a 5G)
- rOOb85 5y agoYou can run one of those os's without any Google services. Paid apps are almost certain to not run, and a bunch of other apps that rely on the services. But almost all the apps I use work great. I have used CalyxOS and it's a great os. I did use microG and 98% of the apps I use worked flawlessly. If you have a supported phone, I'd definitely give it a shot.
- radlad 5y agoI understand it can be done, but then many Android apps can't be run anymore. It's not a viable alternative for many users.