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This is about the pilots, not the union, the FAA, or the CEO. Why hasn't anyone interviewed the pilots? Seems that would clear things up.

ceejayoz 5y ago
> Why hasn't anyone interviewed the pilots? Seems that would clear things up. I'm not sure why you'd think that. It's likely I can find a doctor to interview who doesn't believe in germ theory; that doesn't tell me how widespread that is. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/11/tweets/southwest-airline-pilots-union-deny-claims-anti-va/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/11/tweets/sou... > Murray told the Dallas Morning News that the data showed that pilot sick rates during the heavy cancellation days were "exactly in line with where they were all summer with the same kind of operational disasters." Actual data on sick leave seems more useful that an individual anecdote or two.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  I meant the pilots who were there. Should be easy to clear up if the CEO just lets the pilots speak on how happy they are with the jab and how they totally didn't walk out. For some reason we've only seen union leaders, the CEO, and others come out. If they really wanted to dispel things they'd let the pilots speak.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    > If they really wanted to dispel things they'd let the pilots speak. Perhaps via their official representatives, the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association? How many pilots would you need to see interviewed to determine there wasn't a sick-out? After all, something like 70% of flights went ahead.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      > How many pilots would you need to see interviewed to determine there wasn't a sick-out? 1 SW pilot would be fine, not the association, not the union, not the CEO. A SW pilot that was supposed to be working that day.
      - zenithd 5y ago
        "If I can find EVEN ONE person who agrees with my politics and cares as little about the truth as I do, then I must be right" You're a dumbass and a hopeless cause. I sincerely hope I never have to work with you on a real problem in a real organization. Good night.
        dang 5y ago
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      - ceejayoz 5y ago
        > A SW pilot that was supposed to be working that day. A single pilot claiming to have gone to work would be sufficient to disprove the sick-out? 1,000 out of about 3,000 flights got canceled on Sunday. I presume the remaining 2,000 were piloted; I don't know that an interview is necessary to demonstrate that. A single pilot claiming to have done a sick-out doesn't prove anything much, either. I can find a doctor that claims demon sperm causes gynecological issues (https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/report-texas-doctor-who-went-viral-with-unproven-covid-19-cure-believes-in-demon-sperm https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/report-texas-doctor-who-wen...), but that doesn't really lend it credence. The sick leave data seems a lot more compelling than digging up one interview, in either direction.

ceejayoz 5y ago

> Why hasn't anyone interviewed the pilots? Seems that would clear things up. I'm not sure why you'd think that. It's likely I can find a doctor to interview who doesn't believe in germ theory; that doesn't tell me how widespread that is. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/11/tweets/southwest-airline-pilots-union-deny-claims-anti-va/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/11/tweets/sou... > Murray told the Dallas Morning News that the data showed that pilot sick rates during the heavy cancellation days were "exactly in line with where they were all summer with the same kind of operational disasters." Actual data on sick leave seems more useful that an individual anecdote or two.

hunterb123 5y ago
I meant the pilots who were there. Should be easy to clear up if the CEO just lets the pilots speak on how happy they are with the jab and how they totally didn't walk out. For some reason we've only seen union leaders, the CEO, and others come out. If they really wanted to dispel things they'd let the pilots speak.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  > If they really wanted to dispel things they'd let the pilots speak. Perhaps via their official representatives, the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association? How many pilots would you need to see interviewed to determine there wasn't a sick-out? After all, something like 70% of flights went ahead.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    > How many pilots would you need to see interviewed to determine there wasn't a sick-out? 1 SW pilot would be fine, not the association, not the union, not the CEO. A SW pilot that was supposed to be working that day.
    - zenithd 5y ago
      "If I can find EVEN ONE person who agrees with my politics and cares as little about the truth as I do, then I must be right" You're a dumbass and a hopeless cause. I sincerely hope I never have to work with you on a real problem in a real organization. Good night.
      - dang 5y ago
        We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      > A SW pilot that was supposed to be working that day. A single pilot claiming to have gone to work would be sufficient to disprove the sick-out? 1,000 out of about 3,000 flights got canceled on Sunday. I presume the remaining 2,000 were piloted; I don't know that an interview is necessary to demonstrate that. A single pilot claiming to have done a sick-out doesn't prove anything much, either. I can find a doctor that claims demon sperm causes gynecological issues (https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/report-texas-doctor-who-went-viral-with-unproven-covid-19-cure-believes-in-demon-sperm https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/report-texas-doctor-who-wen...), but that doesn't really lend it credence. The sick leave data seems a lot more compelling than digging up one interview, in either direction.