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In the US, 44% of the population remains unvaccinated, including virtually all school-aged children... but because the same anti-vax people are also really bad

In the US, 44% of the population remains unvaccinated, including virtually all school-aged children... but because the same anti-vax people are also really bad at math, they think that infection rates are proof that they're right when factually the virus is much more widespread than this time last year due to their lack of care. Meanwhile, the most vocal vaccine skeptics are catching and dying from the virus with such frequency that there are multiple subreddits devoted to their stories.

sjwalter 5y ago
And here to me, it seems very obvious that vaccinating children is utter madness. Children are not at risk of covid.
- thephyber 5y ago
  It depends what you think the intent of vaccination is. The 3 vaccines authorized / approved in the USA all significantly reduce the probability of severe disease, the duration of contagiousness, and the magnitude of contagiousness. I would agree that severe disease is already exceedingly rare among that population, but the contagiousness issue is more of a trade off of multiple factors.
- lamontcg 5y ago
  Risks of the vaccine in kids are lower than the risks of MIS-C or myocarditis from the actual virus. Children have a very low risk of COVID complications, but the risk of vaccine complications is even lower.
  - lamontcg 5y ago
    Risk of Myocarditis from COVID-19 Infection in People Under Age 20: A Population-Based Analysis. > Conclusions > Myocarditis (or pericarditis or myopericarditis) from primary COVID19 infection occurred at a rate as high as 450 per million in young males. Young males infected with the virus are up 6 times more likely to develop myocarditis as those who have received the vaccine. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21260998v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21260998v...
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  And here to me, knower of basic biology and observer of children, know that children spread viruses. I sorta caught COVID from my kid and stuff. She sat in a class for 3 days with another infected child whose parents knew the child was infected but who also did not have an adequate plan in place to care for him during the day. It was a complete shitshow, and I permanently lost most of my sense of smell. But thanks for your information.
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sjwalter 5y ago

And here to me, it seems very obvious that vaccinating children is utter madness. Children are not at risk of covid.

thephyber 5y ago
It depends what you think the intent of vaccination is. The 3 vaccines authorized / approved in the USA all significantly reduce the probability of severe disease, the duration of contagiousness, and the magnitude of contagiousness. I would agree that severe disease is already exceedingly rare among that population, but the contagiousness issue is more of a trade off of multiple factors.
lamontcg 5y ago
Risks of the vaccine in kids are lower than the risks of MIS-C or myocarditis from the actual virus. Children have a very low risk of COVID complications, but the risk of vaccine complications is even lower.
- lamontcg 5y ago
  Risk of Myocarditis from COVID-19 Infection in People Under Age 20: A Population-Based Analysis. > Conclusions > Myocarditis (or pericarditis or myopericarditis) from primary COVID19 infection occurred at a rate as high as 450 per million in young males. Young males infected with the virus are up 6 times more likely to develop myocarditis as those who have received the vaccine. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21260998v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21260998v...
MisterBastahrd 5y ago
And here to me, knower of basic biology and observer of children, know that children spread viruses. I sorta caught COVID from my kid and stuff. She sat in a class for 3 days with another infected child whose parents knew the child was infected but who also did not have an adequate plan in place to care for him during the day. It was a complete shitshow, and I permanently lost most of my sense of smell. But thanks for your information.

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