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This man had a profound psychedelic experience.

by eurasiantiger 5y ago

lostmsu 5y ago
No, this man had a profound genuine experience.
- xqcgrek2 5y ago
  No, the man can act and sell a $100,000/hour joy ride.
  - f00zz 5y ago
    Come on, if he were just acting you'd expect a more coherent speech.
    - mrleinad 5y ago
      If he's good, you probably wouldn't be able to tell if he's faking that too ;)
- eurasiantiger 5y ago
  psychedelic (adj.) occasionally psychodelic, "producing expanded consciousness through heightened awareness and feeling," 1956, of drugs, suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" (from dēlos "visible, clear," from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").
  - lostmsu 5y ago
    If you are trying to argue definition, the quote you provided is very unclear. It looks like a mish-mash of multiple sources.
    - eurasiantiger 5y ago
      It is an etymological dictionary definition.
      - lostmsu 5y ago
        If you think this definition is OK (I believe it is not, and the source is simply bad: the sentences are not coherent), then how do you interpret > 1956, of drugs part? Doesn't that mean basically that experience can't be "psychedelic", unless it is a consequence "of drugs" (by this definition)? If you try to dig into the "letter", it also specifically names drug-induced experiences "psychedelic". Wiktionary does not mention any kind of "expanded consciousness" except the "belief of ... power of weeds", which refers to "psychedelic" in the meaning of "induced by drugs".
- grkvlt 5y ago
  sincere question: can you have a profound fake experience? what would that be, or look like?
  - ChainOfFools 5y ago
    yeah, still so much unrecognized dualistic premise baked into our everyday reasoning and language.
  - lostmsu 5y ago
    In some meanings of the word "profound". Any kind of hallucinations can be intense or life changing.

This man had a profound psychedelic experience.

lostmsu 5y ago

No, this man had a profound genuine experience.

xqcgrek2 5y ago
No, the man can act and sell a $100,000/hour joy ride.
- f00zz 5y ago
  Come on, if he were just acting you'd expect a more coherent speech.
  - mrleinad 5y ago
    If he's good, you probably wouldn't be able to tell if he's faking that too ;)
eurasiantiger 5y ago
psychedelic (adj.) occasionally psychodelic, "producing expanded consciousness through heightened awareness and feeling," 1956, of drugs, suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" (from dēlos "visible, clear," from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").
- lostmsu 5y ago
  If you are trying to argue definition, the quote you provided is very unclear. It looks like a mish-mash of multiple sources.
  - eurasiantiger 5y ago
    It is an etymological dictionary definition.
    - lostmsu 5y ago
      If you think this definition is OK (I believe it is not, and the source is simply bad: the sentences are not coherent), then how do you interpret > 1956, of drugs part? Doesn't that mean basically that experience can't be "psychedelic", unless it is a consequence "of drugs" (by this definition)? If you try to dig into the "letter", it also specifically names drug-induced experiences "psychedelic". Wiktionary does not mention any kind of "expanded consciousness" except the "belief of ... power of weeds", which refers to "psychedelic" in the meaning of "induced by drugs".
grkvlt 5y ago
sincere question: can you have a profound fake experience? what would that be, or look like?
- ChainOfFools 5y ago
  yeah, still so much unrecognized dualistic premise baked into our everyday reasoning and language.
- lostmsu 5y ago
  In some meanings of the word "profound". Any kind of hallucinations can be intense or life changing.