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Will it ever ship with coreboot and linux support ?

by neatze 5y ago

ncallaway 5y ago
I installed the Fedora 35 beta on my framework laptop, and everything has been working perfectly well for me.
yepthatsreality 5y ago
Running Manjaro KDE on mine. Only issue is typical Linux hibernation drains the battery. Otherwise flawless, fingerprint reader even works with KDE once configured.
- another_story 5y ago
  Does is sleep properly on lid closing? Even more specifically, can you enable S3 sleep from the Bios? Some newer laptops have things locked down so sleep doesn't work right on Linux, meaning the laptop dies after a few hours of the lid being closed.
  - sfotm 5y ago
    (Not GP) You pretty much have the option between s2Idle, s2deep, and hibernation. The s2Idle mode is really responsive, but it drains battery at a really high rate. s2deep isn't technically supported IIRC; I was able to turn it on and have seen the battery life under sleep improve, but it takes about 10 seconds to wake up to a point where I can log in. If I know I'm going to be away from my laptop for a long time, I'll generally put it in hibernation mode. There might be a better solution out there, but the general consensus seems to be that Linux + Tiger Lake aren't a great marriage at the moment when it comes to sleep. Arch Wiki tells you how to use s2deep, if you want to enable it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Framework#Suspend https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Framework#Suspend EDIT: I said 10 minutes before, where I meant 10 seconds. Sorry about that.
    - jokethrowaway 5y ago
      10 minutes to exit a sleep mode that doesn't drain the battery sounds like a deal breaker It's easier to turn it off at that point Hopefully it will be fixed with time
      - sfotm 5y ago
        Sorry, I meant 10 seconds there. Fixed it. And while s2deep does help a lot, it's still pretty far from perfect - certainly not the kind of sleep you'd get from a recent MacBook.
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StoneTable 5y ago
Coreboot is something they want to do, and are hiring for: https://jobs.lever.co/framework/af82bd1b-7ebd-46da-8ae4-7dab700496d7 https://jobs.lever.co/framework/af82bd1b-7ebd-46da-8ae4-7dab... As for Linux support, it's already there. There are papercuts, like needing a fairly recent kernel and certain packages (for the fingerprint reader), but it works fine, by all accounts. I'm expecting my DIY edition to ship in the next week or so, and I'll be running Linux on it full-time.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > (for the fingerprint reader) Wait, Framework has a fingerprint reader? Hope it's not built-in. That's a strong security anti-feature to have in an otherwise good-looking laptop.
  - lights0123 5y ago
    It's on the power button, but there's no need to use it if you don't want it.
    - southerntofu 5y ago
      Sure, i'm just disappointed they would force this on everyone. First, because it means they vet the practice while we should strongly discourage it (if not for ethical, at least for security reasons). Second, because Framework laptop sounds good otherwise, but i really don't want to financially support corporations who buy into this biometrics hellscape.
ayushnix 5y ago
You'll have to live with fractional scaling if you buy the FrameWork laptop. I know many people will say it works "perfectly" for them even though fractional scaling is discouraged by almost every DE and window manager (including sway), not to mention many applications exhibit weird behavior like weird placement of popup menus or popup menus simply disappearing or flickering.

Will it ever ship with coreboot and linux support ?

by neatze 5y ago

Will it ever ship with coreboot and linux support ?

ncallaway 5y ago

I installed the Fedora 35 beta on my framework laptop, and everything has been working perfectly well for me.

yepthatsreality 5y ago

Running Manjaro KDE on mine. Only issue is typical Linux hibernation drains the battery. Otherwise flawless, fingerprint reader even works with KDE once configured.

another_story 5y ago
Does is sleep properly on lid closing? Even more specifically, can you enable S3 sleep from the Bios? Some newer laptops have things locked down so sleep doesn't work right on Linux, meaning the laptop dies after a few hours of the lid being closed.
- sfotm 5y ago
  (Not GP) You pretty much have the option between s2Idle, s2deep, and hibernation. The s2Idle mode is really responsive, but it drains battery at a really high rate. s2deep isn't technically supported IIRC; I was able to turn it on and have seen the battery life under sleep improve, but it takes about 10 seconds to wake up to a point where I can log in. If I know I'm going to be away from my laptop for a long time, I'll generally put it in hibernation mode. There might be a better solution out there, but the general consensus seems to be that Linux + Tiger Lake aren't a great marriage at the moment when it comes to sleep. Arch Wiki tells you how to use s2deep, if you want to enable it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Framework#Suspend https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Framework#Suspend EDIT: I said 10 minutes before, where I meant 10 seconds. Sorry about that.
  - jokethrowaway 5y ago
    10 minutes to exit a sleep mode that doesn't drain the battery sounds like a deal breaker It's easier to turn it off at that point Hopefully it will be fixed with time
    - sfotm 5y ago
      Sorry, I meant 10 seconds there. Fixed it. And while s2deep does help a lot, it's still pretty far from perfect - certainly not the kind of sleep you'd get from a recent MacBook.
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StoneTable 5y ago

Coreboot is something they want to do, and are hiring for: https://jobs.lever.co/framework/af82bd1b-7ebd-46da-8ae4-7dab700496d7 https://jobs.lever.co/framework/af82bd1b-7ebd-46da-8ae4-7dab... As for Linux support, it's already there. There are papercuts, like needing a fairly recent kernel and certain packages (for the fingerprint reader), but it works fine, by all accounts. I'm expecting my DIY edition to ship in the next week or so, and I'll be running Linux on it full-time.

southerntofu 5y ago
> (for the fingerprint reader) Wait, Framework has a fingerprint reader? Hope it's not built-in. That's a strong security anti-feature to have in an otherwise good-looking laptop.
- lights0123 5y ago
  It's on the power button, but there's no need to use it if you don't want it.
  - southerntofu 5y ago
    Sure, i'm just disappointed they would force this on everyone. First, because it means they vet the practice while we should strongly discourage it (if not for ethical, at least for security reasons). Second, because Framework laptop sounds good otherwise, but i really don't want to financially support corporations who buy into this biometrics hellscape.

ayushnix 5y ago

You'll have to live with fractional scaling if you buy the FrameWork laptop. I know many people will say it works "perfectly" for them even though fractional scaling is discouraged by almost every DE and window manager (including sway), not to mention many applications exhibit weird behavior like weird placement of popup menus or popup menus simply disappearing or flickering.