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Imho, another point for the European GDPR - it says its US only, and I think this is the reason. Otherwise, this should be off by default.

tharne 5y ago
> Imho, another point for the European GDPR - it says its US only As an American, I find it really embarrassing that the Europeans are doing such a better job at protecting individual privacy in this space.
- AniseAbyss 5y ago
  Does the average American really care that they are constantly being bombarded with ads and sales calls? It seems to me they can live with it.
  - wutbrodo 5y ago
    I switched to Google Voice a decade ago, and it took me years to realize the degree to which everyone else was getting spammed with robocalls. I probably get one a month. I know they don't have Google's technical chops, but I wonder why carriers don't do this? Unless it's not down to spam filtering, and it's simply that it costs more for automated systems to interface with Google Voice (once in a blue moon, entering my GV number into an automated system gets rejected).
    - fzzzy 5y ago
      Interesting. I started with my number as a google voice number and then switched it over to real cell phone service a few years later and I never get spam calls. I wonder what is different about gv numbers.
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  - acdha 5y ago
    Is “care” the right word? I would be curious about the number of people who don't like it but feel that they do not have much ability to change it or that it's lower priority than other problems.
    - tharne 5y ago
      I think that's it. After a certain amount of feeling helpless, people just throw up their hands and say, "f-- it, I guess this is just how things are".
- SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
  > Europeans are doing such a better job Are they though? Or is it lip service? Seriously asking. Is there a place I can find the tangible effects of GDPR in fines or actual better behavior? I have no existing opinion either way. From where I sit, only change from GDPR I can actually see is ever website now annoying me to click a “yea whatever we use cookies” banner.
  - SahAssar 5y ago
    Before the GDPR almost no company gave me the option to delete data collected on me, download the data they collected and companies did not have to disclose what third parties they share info with or why. That's a big difference. I've worked at companies with large web presences and I can honestly say that having the GDPR meant that we collected a lot less data about visitors since we had to justify it before collection rather than just seeing if something interesting came out of it.
- hulitu 5y ago
  This is just a facade. If GDPR will be enforced a lot of "data collecting" corporations will have no way to do business in Europe. But like in the land of the free, we have also corruption ( lobbying).

tharne 5y ago

> Imho, another point for the European GDPR - it says its US only As an American, I find it really embarrassing that the Europeans are doing such a better job at protecting individual privacy in this space.

AniseAbyss 5y ago
Does the average American really care that they are constantly being bombarded with ads and sales calls? It seems to me they can live with it.
- wutbrodo 5y ago
  I switched to Google Voice a decade ago, and it took me years to realize the degree to which everyone else was getting spammed with robocalls. I probably get one a month. I know they don't have Google's technical chops, but I wonder why carriers don't do this? Unless it's not down to spam filtering, and it's simply that it costs more for automated systems to interface with Google Voice (once in a blue moon, entering my GV number into an automated system gets rejected).
  - fzzzy 5y ago
    Interesting. I started with my number as a google voice number and then switched it over to real cell phone service a few years later and I never get spam calls. I wonder what is different about gv numbers.
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- acdha 5y ago
  Is “care” the right word? I would be curious about the number of people who don't like it but feel that they do not have much ability to change it or that it's lower priority than other problems.
  - tharne 5y ago
    I think that's it. After a certain amount of feeling helpless, people just throw up their hands and say, "f-- it, I guess this is just how things are".
SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
> Europeans are doing such a better job Are they though? Or is it lip service? Seriously asking. Is there a place I can find the tangible effects of GDPR in fines or actual better behavior? I have no existing opinion either way. From where I sit, only change from GDPR I can actually see is ever website now annoying me to click a “yea whatever we use cookies” banner.
- SahAssar 5y ago
  Before the GDPR almost no company gave me the option to delete data collected on me, download the data they collected and companies did not have to disclose what third parties they share info with or why. That's a big difference. I've worked at companies with large web presences and I can honestly say that having the GDPR meant that we collected a lot less data about visitors since we had to justify it before collection rather than just seeing if something interesting came out of it.
hulitu 5y ago
This is just a facade. If GDPR will be enforced a lot of "data collecting" corporations will have no way to do business in Europe. But like in the land of the free, we have also corruption ( lobbying).