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Futons are neither good couches nor good beds.
by boyd 5y ago
Futons are neither good couches nor good beds.
- ghaff 5y agoWhich is not generally true if you have good (i.e. more expensive) futons.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoAnd likewise if you throw a dedicated turn lane and some sidewalks at these roads they do a pretty ok job.
- ghaff 5y agoUnprotected lefts have been widely recognized as one of the tasks that are especially difficult for autonomous driving to handle--which, of course, means that they can be relatively tricky for people too. And, yes, well-defined places to walk and cross streets help pedestrians--at least if they use those defined places which they often don't in cities.
- AlotOfReading 5y agoAbsolutely not. If you're ever in Calgary, take a walk along Macleod trail near the Chinook centre. The sidewalks are filled with face-height street signage in the walkway, the sidewalks randomly venture between vehicle lanes, they'll sometimes just end, there are pedestrian road crossings without markings or signage, etc. It's one of the most unpleasant built environments I've ever encountered, up there with polluted Soviet mining cities.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoI'm sure someone somewhere has managed to do it wrong but where I live it's done decently well and there's a fair number of main roads that meet the description I gave and are fine as a pedestrian, not perfect but fine.
- masklinn 5y agoWhat? Futons are not at all couches and great beds (for some people anyway, but I like’em). Do americans mean something weird by futons?
- Jill_the_Pill 5y agoYes, there was a fad for making mattresses that sort of fold into a weak, uncomfortable couch. That combo is called a futon here. Now they have frames that give them some supportive structure, but the earlier ones looked like this: https://thehousingforum.com/single-futon/ https://thehousingforum.com/single-futon/
- masklinn 5y agoAh so it's a kind of sofa / pullout bed, with a continuous folding mattress instead of the older "split" style