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One strange aspect of this: It happened slightly before midnight. Generally speaking meteors are more common in the morning hours, between midnight and noon.

One strange aspect of this: It happened slightly before midnight. Generally speaking meteors are more common in the morning hours, between midnight and noon. Those of us between midnight and noon are on the "front" side of the planet at the earth moves around the sun. That is why most are seen in the early morning. They are still there during daylight but we are less likely to see them. After noon we are moving onto the "lee" side, the back side of the planet that gets less meteors. This one hit just before midnight, right at that line between front and back sides.

wasmitnetzen 5y ago
Solar midnight in Golden is currently at ~1:30 though[1], so it was even a bit more in the solar evening than the actual time would suggest. [1]: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/canada/golden https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/canada/golden
MeteorMarc 5y ago
Meteors that are seen in the morning are mostly cometary material that do not produce meteorites. For material from the asteroid belt there is a sampling bias: material hitting at the evening side of the Earth has a lower relative velocity and therefore a larger probability to survive the impact with the atmosphere.
OneTimePetes 5y ago
This is.. true for artifacts entering the earth relative to the solar systems, aka meteorites that are already circling the sun at moderate speed - aka the earth on its orbit moves into them. This does not hold for interstellar objects, which may come crashing into our spiralling course from any angle. Even for those, the likelihood for a "frontal" collision is slightly increased though. Question: If a object comes at just the right angle.. could it essentially make a hover-touch down landing (on a planet with not much atmosphere)? As it would have not much motion relative to the planet system (okay, rotation should be very little) and gravity would add speed..
- jhpankow 5y ago
  I can't see gravity perfectly canceling out forward velocity while simultaneously contacting the surface. It would have to come through the body first. Which, I suppose, is terrifyingly possible.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  > If a object comes at just the right angle.. could it essentially > make a hover-touch down landing (on a planet with not much atmosphere)? No. If the object were to come into just-barely contact with the surface of an airless world, then that body would have enough velocity at that point to take it back out to its apogee. And so does the planet, for that matter. For a hover-touch down landing, the relative speeds between the objects would have to be quasi-zero, so that friction could take over to set it down. But if the relative speeds between the objects were to be quasi-zero, then that would mean that the two objects are already in very, very similar orbits. As in, the apogee of the object would coincide in space (and time) with the apogee of the planet.
  - mnw21cam 5y ago
    Plus, when such an object that is moving so (relatively) slowly approaches the planet, it will fall into the gravity well and pick up a lot of speed - the escape velocity of the planet, which for Earth is about 11.2km/s. So effectively there is a minimum speed at which an object can touch the planet's surface, if you disregard air resistance and assume that the object came from a long way away without doing anything funky like slingshots on its way in.
geoduck14 5y ago
The meterorite right now: https://pics.me.me/boom-headshot-angry-catzz-22408819.png https://pics.me.me/boom-headshot-angry-catzz-22408819.png

wasmitnetzen 5y ago

Solar midnight in Golden is currently at ~1:30 though[1], so it was even a bit more in the solar evening than the actual time would suggest. [1]: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/canada/golden https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/canada/golden

MeteorMarc 5y ago

Meteors that are seen in the morning are mostly cometary material that do not produce meteorites. For material from the asteroid belt there is a sampling bias: material hitting at the evening side of the Earth has a lower relative velocity and therefore a larger probability to survive the impact with the atmosphere.

OneTimePetes 5y ago

This is.. true for artifacts entering the earth relative to the solar systems, aka meteorites that are already circling the sun at moderate speed - aka the earth on its orbit moves into them. This does not hold for interstellar objects, which may come crashing into our spiralling course from any angle. Even for those, the likelihood for a "frontal" collision is slightly increased though. Question: If a object comes at just the right angle.. could it essentially make a hover-touch down landing (on a planet with not much atmosphere)? As it would have not much motion relative to the planet system (okay, rotation should be very little) and gravity would add speed..

jhpankow 5y ago
I can't see gravity perfectly canceling out forward velocity while simultaneously contacting the surface. It would have to come through the body first. Which, I suppose, is terrifyingly possible.
dotancohen 5y ago
> If a object comes at just the right angle.. could it essentially > make a hover-touch down landing (on a planet with not much atmosphere)? No. If the object were to come into just-barely contact with the surface of an airless world, then that body would have enough velocity at that point to take it back out to its apogee. And so does the planet, for that matter. For a hover-touch down landing, the relative speeds between the objects would have to be quasi-zero, so that friction could take over to set it down. But if the relative speeds between the objects were to be quasi-zero, then that would mean that the two objects are already in very, very similar orbits. As in, the apogee of the object would coincide in space (and time) with the apogee of the planet.
- mnw21cam 5y ago
  Plus, when such an object that is moving so (relatively) slowly approaches the planet, it will fall into the gravity well and pick up a lot of speed - the escape velocity of the planet, which for Earth is about 11.2km/s. So effectively there is a minimum speed at which an object can touch the planet's surface, if you disregard air resistance and assume that the object came from a long way away without doing anything funky like slingshots on its way in.

geoduck14 5y ago

The meterorite right now: https://pics.me.me/boom-headshot-angry-catzz-22408819.png https://pics.me.me/boom-headshot-angry-catzz-22408819.png