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It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy

It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy). Because this (mind game) is part of winning Dota matches. You win when the opposing team loses its spirit. [1] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List [2] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays

erk__ 5y ago
Its always fun to watch the big games at the dota leagues (like The International going on atm [0]) and half the players is just taunting and spamming voice lines which are a item you can buy where you play a bit of audio in the game. And it happens at every level of play, from my own games deep in the trench to the highest level of play. (You can also high five your enemies for some friendly interaction) [0]: https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti
ketzo 5y ago
Yep, and Dota’s got a fucking miserable community, too. They have voice chat amongst teammates, though, which totally changes the way people communicate. Toxicity is an online communication problem, and particularly a multiplayer videogame problem, and particularly a MOBA problem. There are lots of thoughts on how to fix it. One that has not been tried very much is “take away their toys”; I, for one, am excited.
- Madmallard 5y ago
  Its community is better than League if you have a good behavior score
- OneTimePetes 5y ago
  Toxicity is the situation most people are that escape into video games to get a life they do not have. Toxicity is a society that treats people as replaceable cogs for low-wage jobs. When ones snide remark on your "a minute late"-late flies into ones face in the evening, all the censoring in the world will not make that world go away. They will dance insults and write "cunt" in spells and corpses on your screen. The reality our choices create, will buckle all attempts to paint over it.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    Or you know, they're just an asshole. I got some acquaintances who taunt and jeer me face-to-face in board games, and they're well paid professionals paid 6+ figures. So yeah, I stopped playing boardgames with them and play with others.
xg15 5y ago
> It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate Never played a lot of MOBAs, but those are usually all canned interactions provided by the game devs, are they? As such I imagine they have a different impact than an actual chat message that you know your opponent just thought up. It's like spamming stickers in telegram vs having an actual conversation there.
nkrisc 5y ago
Ok, cool, that's their design choice, but that doesn't sound fun. If that' the kind of environment they want to foster, that's fine, but that seems terribly off-putting. I'm not really going to enjoy a game where my opponents are encouraged to taunt me when I lose. That just doesn't sound very fun.

erk__ 5y ago

Its always fun to watch the big games at the dota leagues (like The International going on atm [0]) and half the players is just taunting and spamming voice lines which are a item you can buy where you play a bit of audio in the game. And it happens at every level of play, from my own games deep in the trench to the highest level of play. (You can also high five your enemies for some friendly interaction) [0]: https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti

ketzo 5y ago

Yep, and Dota’s got a fucking miserable community, too. They have voice chat amongst teammates, though, which totally changes the way people communicate. Toxicity is an online communication problem, and particularly a multiplayer videogame problem, and particularly a MOBA problem. There are lots of thoughts on how to fix it. One that has not been tried very much is “take away their toys”; I, for one, am excited.

Madmallard 5y ago
Its community is better than League if you have a good behavior score
OneTimePetes 5y ago
Toxicity is the situation most people are that escape into video games to get a life they do not have. Toxicity is a society that treats people as replaceable cogs for low-wage jobs. When ones snide remark on your "a minute late"-late flies into ones face in the evening, all the censoring in the world will not make that world go away. They will dance insults and write "cunt" in spells and corpses on your screen. The reality our choices create, will buckle all attempts to paint over it.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  Or you know, they're just an asshole. I got some acquaintances who taunt and jeer me face-to-face in board games, and they're well paid professionals paid 6+ figures. So yeah, I stopped playing boardgames with them and play with others.

xg15 5y ago

> It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate Never played a lot of MOBAs, but those are usually all canned interactions provided by the game devs, are they? As such I imagine they have a different impact than an actual chat message that you know your opponent just thought up. It's like spamming stickers in telegram vs having an actual conversation there.

nkrisc 5y ago

Ok, cool, that's their design choice, but that doesn't sound fun. If that' the kind of environment they want to foster, that's fine, but that seems terribly off-putting. I'm not really going to enjoy a game where my opponents are encouraged to taunt me when I lose. That just doesn't sound very fun.