I mean, that's true. But really only when the Carthaginians were arrogant enough to invade Rome and hang out for a couple years. Usually when the naval power

I mean, that's true. But really only when the Carthaginians were arrogant enough to invade Rome and hang out for a couple years. Usually when the naval power stays off the home turf, it goes alright, but I take this is a great counter point.