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That's pretty misguided. It's team chat that is toxic, not /all chat. /all chat is typically full of jokes and banter. Your opponent is not going to flame you

That's pretty misguided. It's team chat that is toxic, not /all chat. /all chat is typically full of jokes and banter. Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. In fact /all chat can offset negative interactions you have with your team. It's not uncommon for someone from one team to give angry members of the other a "reality check" from an unbiased position, usually ending any toxicity right there.

johnisgood 5y ago
Funny thing is that you can already disable /all chat, and it is disabled by default. > All Chat is automatically disabled when you first download League.[1] [1] https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026679653-Using-Allied-and-All-Chat https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/artic...
jez 5y ago
And there's always `/mute enemy` to mute all emotes and chat messages from the enemy in that game.
birdyrooster 5y ago
You are mostly right that team chat is more toxic than all, but I’ve seen all chat be very toxic on a regular basis.
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creshal 5y ago
> That's pretty misguided. Seems to about sum up Riot's management these days.
bpye 5y ago
I never really played LoL but that was my experience with Dota 2 - with the exception of the end of the game when the enemy team might well flame you if you're doing badly.
Jare 5y ago
I feel that this is really an experiment to gather data on how dynamics change. A fairly radical one, but not something that they think is going to be "a solution" in itself. It's true in my (very old and short) experience with LoL, that the worst toxicity came from random teammates, but disabling team chat is not so easy to experiment. I would still bet that the solution lies in better in-game tools to replace team chat, but that's a huge problem to solve (the low hanging fruit with map pings etc is already in place).
- alpaca128 5y ago
  Instead of blocking a form of chat I'd just make the system auto-mute anyone using certain key words and phrases. Before the message is even shown. Reading or reacting to those kinds of messages doesn't help anyone, and the game already has a completely ineffective version of this in the form of censoring words (in the default setting).
LZ_Khan 5y ago
My experience hasn't been the same. All chat is toxic just as often as team chat. ggez, lots of taunts and jests after getting a kill on you, and the laner who lost lane against you rubbing it in your face after his team carries you -- all of these are extremely common.
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ketzo 5y ago
The point is not to shield people from the flame of their opponents. /mute exists, and in fact, you already have to opt in to having /all displayed in the first place. The point of this change is to stop people from engaging. > usually ending any toxicity right there. Nope, nope, nope. This is online arguments 101. Engaging with angry, anonymous, online strangers does not deescalate; it makes them angrier and draws in others. Which, for what it's worth, is exactly what happens in /all. Also: > Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. You... may not have not played very much League of Legends. This is, like, the literal number one use of /all.
- maverwa 5y ago
  > This is, like, the literal number one use of /all. as someone whe spend way to many hours of his life in bronze: yes, it is. [3rd edit or so]: oh, that and "gg easy" which is not a nice thing to say as well.
  - chmod775 5y ago
    There might be some variations based on rank here. Higher ranked people need to have at least some ability to reason about the game and look at (their own) gameplay objectively to improve - even if that ability can get overridden by anger. They're probably going to be slightly more "tilt resistant" as well. Additionally I know there's regional differences, because of culture and simply language barriers. Anyone who has heard of korean servers will know what I mean.

johnisgood 5y ago

Funny thing is that you can already disable /all chat, and it is disabled by default. > All Chat is automatically disabled when you first download League.[1] [1] https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026679653-Using-Allied-and-All-Chat https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/artic...

jez 5y ago

And there's always `/mute enemy` to mute all emotes and chat messages from the enemy in that game.

birdyrooster 5y ago

You are mostly right that team chat is more toxic than all, but I’ve seen all chat be very toxic on a regular basis.

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creshal 5y ago

> That's pretty misguided. Seems to about sum up Riot's management these days.

bpye 5y ago

I never really played LoL but that was my experience with Dota 2 - with the exception of the end of the game when the enemy team might well flame you if you're doing badly.

Jare 5y ago

I feel that this is really an experiment to gather data on how dynamics change. A fairly radical one, but not something that they think is going to be "a solution" in itself. It's true in my (very old and short) experience with LoL, that the worst toxicity came from random teammates, but disabling team chat is not so easy to experiment. I would still bet that the solution lies in better in-game tools to replace team chat, but that's a huge problem to solve (the low hanging fruit with map pings etc is already in place).

alpaca128 5y ago
Instead of blocking a form of chat I'd just make the system auto-mute anyone using certain key words and phrases. Before the message is even shown. Reading or reacting to those kinds of messages doesn't help anyone, and the game already has a completely ineffective version of this in the form of censoring words (in the default setting).

LZ_Khan 5y ago

My experience hasn't been the same. All chat is toxic just as often as team chat. ggez, lots of taunts and jests after getting a kill on you, and the laner who lost lane against you rubbing it in your face after his team carries you -- all of these are extremely common.

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ketzo 5y ago

The point is not to shield people from the flame of their opponents. /mute exists, and in fact, you already have to opt in to having /all displayed in the first place. The point of this change is to stop people from engaging. > usually ending any toxicity right there. Nope, nope, nope. This is online arguments 101. Engaging with angry, anonymous, online strangers does not deescalate; it makes them angrier and draws in others. Which, for what it's worth, is exactly what happens in /all. Also: > Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. You... may not have not played very much League of Legends. This is, like, the literal number one use of /all.

maverwa 5y ago
> This is, like, the literal number one use of /all. as someone whe spend way to many hours of his life in bronze: yes, it is. [3rd edit or so]: oh, that and "gg easy" which is not a nice thing to say as well.
- chmod775 5y ago
  There might be some variations based on rank here. Higher ranked people need to have at least some ability to reason about the game and look at (their own) gameplay objectively to improve - even if that ability can get overridden by anger. They're probably going to be slightly more "tilt resistant" as well. Additionally I know there's regional differences, because of culture and simply language barriers. Anyone who has heard of korean servers will know what I mean.