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Seems far too simplistic. Berkeley is actually even more liberal on many issues so your explanation doesn’t really make sense.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> Berkeley is actually even more liberal on many issues so your explanation doesn’t really make sense This isn’t a single-dimensional system.
- mrgordon 5y ago
  Right, I said “on many issues” expressing nuance. As compared to the other poster who claims SF is so liberal that it has problems and Berkeley is not liberal so it doesn’t…
CheezeIt 5y ago
Berkeley is part of Alameda County, but San Francisco has its own county.
nottaylorswift 5y ago
Berkeley is almost a village with a uniform liberal population, many young affluent students. San Francisco is a large city, and at scale is where these policies break down. You can't walk through downtown SF, their system has failed. It's indisputable IMO.
- tshaddox 5y ago
  You can in fact walk through downtown SF.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Berkeley is almost a village 120k isn't a village, and if it was... > San Francisco is a large city 800k definitely wouldn't be a large city.
- staticautomatic 5y ago
  What exactly do you mean by "you can't walk through downtown SF?"
  - nottaylorswift 5y ago
    I mean the streets are covered in human shit and there are homeless insane people shooting up waiting to sneak attack you if you drop your guard. If you take shelter in a Walgreens you will find thieves filling up trash bags with goods from the shelves while the security guards watch, helpless.
    - staticautomatic 5y ago
      I’ve spent years working in and walking through the TL and civic center every day. Not once have I worried that someone was gonna “sneak attack” me. There absolutely are violent street crimes in SF, including in downtown, but the idea that downtown is some kind of mugging war zone is a farce. Its bark is worse than its bite.
      - nottaylorswift 5y ago
        2PM on a bus by Powell station a crazy homeless guy broke a full 40oz over the back of my head without any warning. He thought I was following him on behalf of the government because I had a bright red Nexus 5 phone. I've also seen 2 stabbings in the TL, one of which killed my friend. Also a mob shooting in a carpark, again in the TL.
        mrgordon 5y ago
        Sounds like you should stop hanging out in the Tenderloin. The rest of us lived there for years without being stabbed or hit with bottles. No doubt there are parts of the city with problems but you’re exaggerating greatly for no reason.
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JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> Berkeley is actually even more liberal on many issues so your explanation doesn’t really make sense This isn’t a single-dimensional system.

mrgordon 5y ago
Right, I said “on many issues” expressing nuance. As compared to the other poster who claims SF is so liberal that it has problems and Berkeley is not liberal so it doesn’t…

CheezeIt 5y ago

Berkeley is part of Alameda County, but San Francisco has its own county.

nottaylorswift 5y ago

Berkeley is almost a village with a uniform liberal population, many young affluent students. San Francisco is a large city, and at scale is where these policies break down. You can't walk through downtown SF, their system has failed. It's indisputable IMO.

tshaddox 5y ago
You can in fact walk through downtown SF.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> Berkeley is almost a village 120k isn't a village, and if it was... > San Francisco is a large city 800k definitely wouldn't be a large city.
staticautomatic 5y ago
What exactly do you mean by "you can't walk through downtown SF?"
- nottaylorswift 5y ago
  I mean the streets are covered in human shit and there are homeless insane people shooting up waiting to sneak attack you if you drop your guard. If you take shelter in a Walgreens you will find thieves filling up trash bags with goods from the shelves while the security guards watch, helpless.
  - staticautomatic 5y ago
    I’ve spent years working in and walking through the TL and civic center every day. Not once have I worried that someone was gonna “sneak attack” me. There absolutely are violent street crimes in SF, including in downtown, but the idea that downtown is some kind of mugging war zone is a farce. Its bark is worse than its bite.
    - nottaylorswift 5y ago
      2PM on a bus by Powell station a crazy homeless guy broke a full 40oz over the back of my head without any warning. He thought I was following him on behalf of the government because I had a bright red Nexus 5 phone. I've also seen 2 stabbings in the TL, one of which killed my friend. Also a mob shooting in a carpark, again in the TL.
      - mrgordon 5y ago
        Sounds like you should stop hanging out in the Tenderloin. The rest of us lived there for years without being stabbed or hit with bottles. No doubt there are parts of the city with problems but you’re exaggerating greatly for no reason.
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