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> will not be remembered as having been justified or proportionate. Why not? Do you think there’s no chance that the majority of people _want_ these things an

by Permit 5y ago

> will not be remembered as having been justified or proportionate. Why not? Do you think there’s no chance that the majority of people _want_ these things and will remember them as justified and proportionate? Where do you get this confidence? Do you think there’s a chance you have projected your own feelings about the pandemic restrictions onto others? You’re surprised that there is no civil unrest. Consider the possibility there is no unrest because other people want the restrictions that you detest.

sjwalter 5y ago
Americans have been largely informed by mass media and they believe covid is much more deadly than it actually is. The same mass media that has elected to make discussing a plethora of immunity-building strategies (e.g., vitamin d, losing weight, stress-reduction) verboten. You can get the majority of people to desperately want something if you stoke their fears and do everything possible to divide them. That is, the way I see it, the great failure mode of liberal democracy--once all the major institutions are captured by the ruling class, democracy is a joke. I love America, but when for just one example the entire crop of candidates for a federal election are absolute chucklehead clowns, none of whom is trustworthy or astute enough to be given a little league coaching job, it's pretty clear there are serious problems. Just cause you can mindfuck millions of people into demanding authoritarian control, doesn't mean they really want it, just means you were able to coerce them into it.
motohagiography 5y ago
Indeed, I have had to consider that, and am pretty sure I have not projected my feelings about the pandemic because I was tracking this scenario in earnest since 2012. Most people aren't nihilists, but the ones who are have managed to find each other again.

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> will not be remembered as having been justified or proportionate. Why not? Do you think there’s no chance that the majority of people _want_ these things an

by Permit 5y ago

sjwalter 5y ago
Americans have been largely informed by mass media and they believe covid is much more deadly than it actually is. The same mass media that has elected to make discussing a plethora of immunity-building strategies (e.g., vitamin d, losing weight, stress-reduction) verboten. You can get the majority of people to desperately want something if you stoke their fears and do everything possible to divide them. That is, the way I see it, the great failure mode of liberal democracy--once all the major institutions are captured by the ruling class, democracy is a joke. I love America, but when for just one example the entire crop of candidates for a federal election are absolute chucklehead clowns, none of whom is trustworthy or astute enough to be given a little league coaching job, it's pretty clear there are serious problems. Just cause you can mindfuck millions of people into demanding authoritarian control, doesn't mean they really want it, just means you were able to coerce them into it.
motohagiography 5y ago
Indeed, I have had to consider that, and am pretty sure I have not projected my feelings about the pandemic because I was tracking this scenario in earnest since 2012. Most people aren't nihilists, but the ones who are have managed to find each other again.