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> However, aside from questions of false positives, the broader issue is that nominally the issue over which the Cold War was fought was over whether to have su
by torben-friis 5y ago
> However, aside from questions of false positives, the broader issue is that nominally the issue over which the Cold War was fought was over whether to have such a list of prohibited groups and dangerous individuals whose voice was too dangerous to allow people to hear it, or subjects too dangerous to allow people to discuss them; the USSR argued that it was essential, the US that it was intolerable, in both cases somewhat inconsistently. This theory of liberalism was fundamental to the foundation of the US — not, as some would argue, as a mere limitation on government action, but as a fundamental aspect of what distinguishes a good society from a bad one.
The issue over which the cold war was fought was one of world dominance, and to be honest the way you describe the values that the US defended seems laughable considering you're referring the era of Hoover's FBI.
- kragen 5y agoOf course, all wars are "really" fought over dominance disputes between elites, but arranging to remain elites while they're disputing is no easy feat, so such simple equivalences gloss over enormously significant details. For example, Hoover didn't hold a candle to Beria, the US prison system didn't hold a candle to GULAG until the 01990s, and, despite his best efforts, Joe McCarthy's jihad against domestic dissent didn't hold a candle to Khrushchev's, much less Stalin's.