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So what's the deal with the militia groups? Are these groups listed particularly heinous groups or is this an editorial decision by Facebook, that they don't wa

by bitlax 5y ago

So what's the deal with the militia groups? Are these groups listed particularly heinous groups or is this an editorial decision by Facebook, that they don't want militia groups to organize using their platform?

pwned1 5y ago
LOL. Michigan Militia of Love.
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viro 5y ago
most militia groups are very boogaloo boysish. Which tend to be far-right anti-government extremists.
jazzyjackson 5y ago
the US has a militia, its called the national guard, any other militias might be called “paramilitary”, and a private company might choose not to be the platform of paramilitary groups
- Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
  I don't think this list is the result of a private companies (facebooks) choice. What we are looking at seems state mandated
- syshum 5y ago
  The US has 2 Militia's under federal law, the organized Militia aka the national guard, and the unorganized militia which is 10 U.S. Code § 246 which states "The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and,... under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard."
  - nieve 5y ago
    Did you just count the same group twice - those who are members of the National Guard?
    - syshum 5y ago
      The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. Members of the militia are "all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and,... under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.""
lsiebert 5y ago
all 50 states prohibit private militia groups. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/30/907720068/are-citizen-militias-legal https://www.npr.org/2020/08/30/907720068/are-citizen-militia... "...But one thing is consistent - all 50 states have some provision in their state law, whether it's their state constitution or their state statutes, that prohibits private militia, private paramilitary activity. And that's also the case in Wisconsin. In addition, many states, including Wisconsin, prohibit private individuals, untrained, unaccountable to civilian authority from taking on official functions - functions of an official public officer like a police officer without any authority."
- LinuxBender 5y ago
  Could there be a loophole if a group instead of calling themselves a private militia, instead calls themselves a {insert whatever} activist group and instead of paramilitary activity, they practice {insert whatever} peace protests? Asking because some of the organized groups in the past few years on the media appear to be heavily armed, organized and quite destructive.
  - lsiebert 5y ago
    I'm not sure I'd call it a loophole, it's still illegal to hurt people or damage property, but certainly there is evidence to suggest bugaloo boys and white nationalists are doing exactly that, by infiltrating peaceful protests. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-killed-officer-after-using-black-lives-matter-protest-as-cover-prosecutors/ https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-kill... https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/mitchell-carlson-umbrella-man/ https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/mitchell-carlson-umbrella-man... https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/boogaloo-boys-george-floyd-protests-black-lives-matter-1010117/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/boogaloo-b... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-attack-minneapolis-police-building/story?id=73789955 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-bois-member-charged... https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/white-supremacists-infiltrated-black-lives-matter-protest-in-richmond-instigate-riots https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/white-supremacists-infi...
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by bitlax 5y ago

pwned1 5y ago

LOL. Michigan Militia of Love.

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viro 5y ago

most militia groups are very boogaloo boysish. Which tend to be far-right anti-government extremists.

jazzyjackson 5y ago

the US has a militia, its called the national guard, any other militias might be called “paramilitary”, and a private company might choose not to be the platform of paramilitary groups

Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
I don't think this list is the result of a private companies (facebooks) choice. What we are looking at seems state mandated
syshum 5y ago
The US has 2 Militia's under federal law, the organized Militia aka the national guard, and the unorganized militia which is 10 U.S. Code § 246 which states "The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and,... under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard."
- nieve 5y ago
  Did you just count the same group twice - those who are members of the National Guard?
  - syshum 5y ago
    The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. Members of the militia are "all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and,... under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.""

lsiebert 5y ago

all 50 states prohibit private militia groups. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/30/907720068/are-citizen-militias-legal https://www.npr.org/2020/08/30/907720068/are-citizen-militia... "...But one thing is consistent - all 50 states have some provision in their state law, whether it's their state constitution or their state statutes, that prohibits private militia, private paramilitary activity. And that's also the case in Wisconsin. In addition, many states, including Wisconsin, prohibit private individuals, untrained, unaccountable to civilian authority from taking on official functions - functions of an official public officer like a police officer without any authority."

LinuxBender 5y ago
Could there be a loophole if a group instead of calling themselves a private militia, instead calls themselves a {insert whatever} activist group and instead of paramilitary activity, they practice {insert whatever} peace protests? Asking because some of the organized groups in the past few years on the media appear to be heavily armed, organized and quite destructive.
- lsiebert 5y ago
  I'm not sure I'd call it a loophole, it's still illegal to hurt people or damage property, but certainly there is evidence to suggest bugaloo boys and white nationalists are doing exactly that, by infiltrating peaceful protests. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-killed-officer-after-using-black-lives-matter-protest-as-cover-prosecutors/ https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-kill... https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/mitchell-carlson-umbrella-man/ https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/mitchell-carlson-umbrella-man... https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/boogaloo-boys-george-floyd-protests-black-lives-matter-1010117/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/boogaloo-b... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-attack-minneapolis-police-building/story?id=73789955 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-bois-member-charged... https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/white-supremacists-infiltrated-black-lives-matter-protest-in-richmond-instigate-riots https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/white-supremacists-infi...
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