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Ideas such as the death of God or the end of history, ideas that can't be nailed down, much less verified, serve as food for enlightening discussion. And we're
by dkarl 15y ago
Ideas such as the death of God or the end of history, ideas that can't be nailed down, much less verified, serve as food for enlightening discussion. And we're tired of discussion. We can't take any more. We want ideas that can be settled in labs or supercolliders or computer simulations. Why don't we want to talk about ideas any more? Actually, it was a single idea killed our appetite for discussion and hence our appetite for big, open-ended ideas. That idea is that everything has political implications and because of our concern for the well-being of others we are morally obligated to prioritize politics above all else.
Because of that belief, we cannot indulge in honesty, good faith, or curiosity in any intellectual discussion, lest the enemy steal a march on us. Lest a child starve, a woman be raped, a citizen be robbed of the fruit of his labor, or a nation decay, we must treat every discussion as a political battlefield. Talking with someone you disagree with on their own terms isn't stimulating or educational; it's legitimizing a harmful ideology. Conceding a point isn't part of a healthy interchange of ideas; it's emboldening a dangerous mentality. Even the goal of changing your conversation partner's mind is self-indulgent, since what's important is not changing the mind of the person you're talking with but convincing the spectators that you're winning. It doesn't even matter whether your partner thinks you are sincere. Since the spectators are the point, he is obligated to argue with you no matter how uncivil or insincere you are. It would be immoral of him to concede the field to you, because of the damage you could do with it.
This view of conversation as political struggle, which ruthlessly extends into every sphere of life through the habits we cultivate in public, has banished good faith and curiosity from intellectual discussion and turned it into an onerous moral obligation. Ideas that stimulate conversation are an unwelcome call to arms for bored and weary warriors. Good riddance to them!
- dreamdu5t 15y agoYet here you are having an intellectual discussion, without using it to wage a political battle.
- shadowfox 15y agoSadly it was more of a monologue vs a discussion
- ivankirigin 15y agonot all problems have obvious solutions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_problem